[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

How can you say it wasn't in an insulting way, it was very derogatory and offensive. I don't know why people are seriously pushing this "oh he said he likes ****ers" angle because its just not the tea.

I never said it wasn't offensive. But he wasn't using the word as an insult. He wasn't using it negatively, he wasn't using it with the intention of causing significant harm. Had it been that way then sure, I'd be calling for his ejection.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I never said it wasn't offensive. But he wasn't using the word as an insult. He wasn't using it negatively, he wasn't using it with the intention of causing significant harm. Had it been that way then sure, I'd be calling for his ejection.

...I think though for me, Ashley...it was up to BB in their responsibility to show him what significant harm it would cause...which is why, no matter what context it was used and whatever intention...he should have been ejected...(..and I do quite like him as a person in many ways..)...


...I think it’s disappointing that there were so few complaints tbh...

[Ashley.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I think though for me, Ashley...it was up to BB in their responsibility to show him what significant harm it would cause...which is why, no matter what context it was used and whatever intention...he should have been ejected...(..and I do quite like him as a person in many ways..)...


...I think it’s disappointing that there were so few complaints tbh...

Yeah, I can see why people would have liked him to be ejected. In this case I just believe that a final warning was enough to make him more aware of what he's saying, whilst still allowing him to continue on provided he doesn't slip up again. I'm not defending his use of the word, I never have and never will say it... and I'm glad he was warned for it. However, I believe that he should be given a chance to reflect and take into account how it may have been offensive.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

Yeah, I can see why people would have liked him to be ejected. In this case I just believe that a final warning was enough to make him more aware of what he's saying, whilst still allowing him to continue on provided he doesn't slip up again. I'm not defending his use of the word, I never have and never will say it... and I'm glad he was warned for it. However, I believe that he should be given a chance to reflect and take into account how it may have been offensive.

...yeah hopefully he is reflecting on it, I didn’t actually see the warning, Ashley...but hopefully he’s realised how offensive that word is and doesn’t use it again...he seems like a decent guy generally..(..other than that..)...but I did wonder if he also wasn’t ejected but just given a warning because of the suitcase lost task thing....which was obviously geared up for him..?..but I might be wrong about that and too suspicious of BB because they might have had appropriately embarrassing lost suitcase changes for all housemates...

[Ammi]

..I still think though..(..personally..)..it wasn’t so much about him ‘learning’ anything in using that term...?...but more than it was a responsibility from BB to give a ‘maximum punishment’ of ejection ...rather than just a warning, which doesn’t really relay the seriousness of offence of it all in referring to anyone in that way...

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I still think though..(..personally..)..it wasn’t so much about him ‘learning’ anything in using that term...?...but more than it was a responsibility from BB to give a ‘maximum punishment’ of ejection ...rather than just a warning, which doesn’t really relay the seriousness of offence of it all in referring to anyone in that way...

Isnt it about how offensive it is to the viewing public, which imo was extremely offensive and he should have been ejected...but they had just lost stormy so couldnt

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Isnt it about how offensive it is to the viewing public, which imo was extremely offensive and he should have been ejected...but they had just lost stormy so couldnt

C'on, we both know that aint true-i've seen enough cbb shows to know they seem to be very picky and choosey as to what they take action on and to what they let slide, im not surprised people get confused about it all.

[Eddie.]

People complain about everything these days...

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