[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

I don't buy any of that.. You can't blame straight people for a gay persons self loathing..

Gay people seem to have separated themselves from society rather than society shunning them.gay bars, pride marches, flags n banners...

So more and more they isolate themselves, staying amongst their own...society having less and less of an impact on their day to day lives, yet still able to blame anyone but themselves for their unhappiness..

I'm talking about gay people before coming out who view their gayness as something to overcome bc it is not viewed favourably by society. True it is changing now, but even now it's not everywhere.
Young gay person grows up aware gayness is used as an insult at school, parents may want grandchildren, the list goes on. And so they develop self-loathing of that part of themselves and wish they could be straight not to disappoint the expectations.
You're going on about separation which largely does not exist. Sure there are gay venues etc but that's to do with providing safe spaces where there's no judgement if you want to kiss somebody or hold their hand.
For somebody supposedly interested in fighting for our rights you seem to have very little understanding of basic stuff, Parm.
And btw, coming out and living openly as a gay person has a huge positive impact. Gay people are not unhappy as you seem to be saying.