[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’m talking about that particular type of woman who would refuse to date/get romantically involved with a guy/man just because of him being less than 6 feet tall. I’m not talking about all or even the majority of women.

There's plenty of people, male and female, who don't get romantically involved with men/women for a myriad of reasons, be it physical or personality traits. Guess what? All of those reasons are perfectly valid when you're looking for a romantic partner because it's the most personal decision you will ever make in life, no one else has a say, the end.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

There's plenty of people, male and female, who don't get romantically involved with men/women for a myriad of reasons, be it physical or personality traits. Guess what? All of those reasons are perfectly valid when you're looking for a romantic partner because it's the most personal decision you will ever make in life, no one else has a say, the end.

I get that but women (mostly younger ones) who are 'petty' about men's heights go straight through me. I'm a decent 5"10 so I'm not personally too bothered but the way some young women (and guys) go on you'd think being 6-feet tall was more physically masculine than having a beard/muzzie, deep-ish voice or being quite built (not that I'm putting people into stereotypical boxes based on a few random external characteristics; I'm just regurgitating what other people sadly think) and that it's the norm for a man/guy. It isn't. Only about 10% of the male population worldwide is 6 feet or above. It's actually far more normal for a man to be 5"8 than 6 feet. There aren't a lot of benefits to being a wannabe-giant if you're not shooting hoops into baskets for a living.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I get that but women (mostly younger ones) who are 'petty' about men's heights go straight through me. I'm a decent 5"10 so I'm not personally too bothered but the way some young women (and guys) go on you'd think being 6-feet tall was more physically masculine than having a beard/muzzie, deep-ish voice or being quite built (not that I'm putting people into stereotypical boxes based on a few random external characteristics; I'm just regurgitating what other people sadly think) and that it's the norm for a man/guy. It isn't. Only about 10% of the male population worldwide is 6 feet or above. It's actually far more normal for a man to be 5"8 than 6 feet. There aren't a lot of benefits to being a wannabe-giant if you're not shooting hoops into baskets for a living.

You're always generalising people Redway, if what you were saying was true then going by your statistics 90% of men would be single because of their height.

Gav is only 5'8" by the way and he's just perfect to me

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You're always generalising people Redway, if what you were saying was true then going by your statistics 90% of men would be single because of their height.

Gav is only 5'8" by the way and he's just perfect to me

Yeah but to a lot of people a strong 5"10 is 6-foot. I'm not saying that all or even the vast majority of young women are desperate to have a guy that's the devil's number in feet-height (6) but surely you do sort of know that a lot of people get hung up on it in a shallow way that goes beyond just having certain preferences (which is fine). But I'm not talking about all or even the vast majority of ones. Just the ones who are noisy about their height preferences (which when they're so exaggerated and not exactly based on anything that's true do strike me as shallow).

And 5"8 is just enough. I'm definitely not arguing against that. That's essentially what I'm saying, even.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yeah but to a lot of people a strong 5"10 is 6-foot. I'm not saying that all or even the vast majority of young women are desperate to have a guy that's the devil's number in feet-height (6) but surely you do sort of know that a lot of people get hung up on it in a shallow way that goes beyond just having certain preferences (which is fine). But I'm not talking about all or even the vast majority of ones. Just the ones who are noisy about their height preferences (which when they're so exaggerated and not exactly based on anything that's true do strike me as shallow).

And 5"8 is just enough. I'm definitely not arguing against that. That's essentially what I'm saying, even.

5'8" is just enough for what? Now you're the one who sounds shallow about men's height

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

5'8" is just enough for what? Now you're the one who sounds shallow about men's height

To be a man!

My father in law is only 5'6 ... I don't think it's ever bothered him that much until recently, MiL and my wife are the same height, her sister is only 5'1 ... my eldest daughter recently overtook her mum and is thus now taller than her grandad aged 14 (and by a decent margin now, she just hit 5'8). I think he does find that a little confronting .

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

To be a man!

My father in law is only 5'6 ... I don't think it's ever bothered him that much until recently, MiL and my wife are the same height, her sister is only 5'1 ... my eldest daughter recently overtook her mum and is thus now taller than her grandad aged 14 (and by a decent margin now, she just hit 5'8). I think he does find that a little confronting .

The way I look at it is that women on-average tend to have longer hair for similar biological reasons that men on-average are taller than woman but that doesn't stop men with long hair from looking seriously cool a lot of the time (and men, including probably Jesus from all depictions of him over the millennia, have been known to grow their hair out for thousands of years and plait it up in all sorts of ways so it's not such a rare thing historically anyhow). Likewise I find taller women (5"7 - 5"9) quite attractive. I know women have the benefit of high-heels (which ironically were originally men's apparel) to tower over a lot of people if they're already anything from 5"6 plus (and a 5"11 woman who often wears heels - like one of my aunties - is going to look very tall indeed) but getting intimidated and feeling emasculated because of a tall woman is just pathetic and insecure.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

5'8" is just enough for what? Now you're the one who sounds shallow about men's height

"Just enough" as in more-or-less a perfect medium for a man. That's what I meant.