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Old 27-05-2025, 07:54 AM #101
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…it’s just another layer of ‘horror’ that such serious falsehoods can be posted on social media, which again…only incites…
Yeah very dangerous to be sharing images like that when we don't have the proper information

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Was he fleeing an angry mob after clipping someone with his car. He did sound his horn as he drove..
I read that alright, people saying he got stuck and hit someone and the mob started smashing his windows and that's when he started hitting more people ( obviously he shouldn't have been driving in there though)
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Yeah very dangerous to be sharing images like that when we don't have the proper information



I read that alright, people saying he got stuck and hit someone and the mob started smashing his windows and that's when he started hitting more people ( obviously he shouldn't have been driving in there though)



He must have beeen terrified. 1st thing a thought about when I saw the footage was the 2 soldiers being dragged from their car when they took a wrong turning at an IRA funeral.
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If you are in the passenger seat while a stoned person is driving then you are just as much an idiot as the driver

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs is illegal

And for your information it’s the same mindset that it’s fine to do so sees drunk people get into cars and drive
That’s fine.
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Owen Jones speaking live on Ch5HD AM show
said he watched the online-only video
Then wish he had not.

He also stated Online
before the Police spoke,
People were saying it's a Muslim.

So he understands why the Police said
The driver was White.
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Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS
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Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS
That looks horrifically scary, and the shouts of kill him ...awful

Looking at that it looks like this was a horrible accident caused by panic on both sides
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instate more armed military personnel patrolling the streets to prevent people acting too crazy


more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings
The purpose of terror is for us to change how we live which is pretty much what you're advocating. Last time a copper shot someone, a known criminal, gang member and drug dealer, the copper's name was released to the public putting him and his whole family in jeopardy, and he still faces
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Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS
I wouldn't say caused it, he shouldn't have been driving on that road through the crowd anyway but it does put a different spin on it. If reports are true that he was drink driving and went to drive on a road that was closed, he very much caused it
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instate more armed military personnel patrolling the streets to prevent people acting too crazy


more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings
The purpose of terror is for us to change how we live which is pretty much what you're advocating. Last time a copper shot someone, a known criminal, gang member and drug dealer, the copper's name was released to the public putting him and his whole family in jeopardy, he had a £10,000 bounty on his head and he still faces a tribunal despite being found not guilty. I wouldn't want more police in that position.
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I wouldn't say caused it, he shouldn't have been driving on that road through the crowd anyway but it does put a different spin on it. If reports are true that he was drink driving and went to drive on a road that was closed, he very much caused it
…this is also why the police publish cautions about stuff said and shown on social media platforms etc…correct/factual information will take time for the officials to put together and get that more accurate picture and in the meantime there is so much speculation which is also very dangerous…I mean, even in mainstream media they’re using descriptives such as ‘ploughed into…’…and that’s quite an citing word…it’s feeling more and more in danger of becoming a ‘lawless society’….
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…anyway, as Niamh said…if it proves to be the case that alcohol was involved in impairing judgement and that person should never have got behind the wheel of their car then there is a huge responsibility and accountability on them for the events that unfolded in terms of others being harmed…
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I wouldn't say caused it, he shouldn't have been driving on that road through the crowd anyway but it does put a different spin on it. If reports are true that he was drink driving and went to drive on a road that was closed, he very much caused it
Contributed to it then..let's settle for that.
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Contributed to it then..let's settle for that.
As Ammi said, it's all speculation at this point anyway
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Yep, loooks like the crowd caused this to me..

https://youtu.be/xZczlsQwSlk?si=L2ld7sGW_56xMLfS
There should have been emergency services who were able to intervene before it got to that point, he's right by an ambulance
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As Ammi said, it's all speculation at this point anyway
But is it? What with all the varying videos circulating.
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But is it? What with all the varying videos circulating.
It's speculation as to whether he was drinking etc
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There should have been emergency services who were able to intervene before it got to that point, he's right by an ambulance
There's is also police standing by watching people rip his door open and climb into the vehicle when it eventually stopped..
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There's is also police standing by watching people rip his door open and climb into the vehicle when it eventually stopped..
A road that was closed to traffic.....
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It's speculation as to whether he was drinking etc
But no speculation needed to see the crowd attacking his vehicle caused him to drive off in a panic.
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But no speculation needed to see the crowd attacking his vehicle caused him to drive off in a panic.
a road he should not have been on as it was closed to normal traffic
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a road he should not have been on as it was closed to normal traffic
Or opening up to traffic as the parade had passed by...perhaps not quick enough for him, so he m8ved a barrier, perhaps a falling down moment
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Or opening up to traffic as the parade had passed by...perhaps not quick enough for him, so he m8ved a barrier, perhaps a falling down moment
Which, if the case, would make him very much in the wrong and at fault
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There are multiple areas of blame here but yes the fact that the angry mob of footie yobs started bashing the car to try to get to the driver 100% caused a panic and further chaos. Let's call a spade a spade. The angry men kicked off and made things worse; that's the world.

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Footie yobs? Jesus Christ, it was families... But yeah, call them all yobs.
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Which, if the case, would make him very much in the wrong and at fault
But the crowd attacked his car for for entering the road...That's when he had to speed off in a panic, and that's when the injuries took place.
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