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Old 27-05-2025, 05:51 AM #76
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…it’s just impossible to imagine the mindset of someone who does something so horrific…to indiscriminately cause harm in such a way without a care or thought of life loss…it’s fortunate that there was no loss of life and it’s fortunate that there were minimal serious physical injuries…but emotionally/mentally for those hurt and those witnessing that hurt/hearing the screams of terror is also a life changing ‘injury’ …


…it’s difficult to find words, so many lives/worlds completely changed right now…
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…yeah I would say complete hogwash…as Annie said, that’s not a 53yr old man…is that social media…?…honestly, put it down…
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…I think that ‘terrorism’ needs to be looked at to be redefined and not necessarily attached to political/idealogical motivations…that political etc terrorism is not the only form of this type of indiscriminate violence and intent to cause harm and chaos and…terror….
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…I think that ‘terrorism’ needs to be looked at to be redefined and not necessarily attached to political/idealogical motivations…that political etc terrorism is not the only form of this type of indiscriminate violence and intent to cause harm and chaos and…terror….
Of course its ridiculous to say its not terror
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I’ve never understood why a lot of people think driving drunk is a good idea. It can be the unveiling of malicious intent in people who have that kind of evil mind and even with the best of people it can at the very least just get you into accidents/havoc you don’t need. Driving under the influence of anything isn’t a good idea at-all but I’d rather be in the passengers’ seat of a stoned than drunk driver’s car.
If you are in the passenger seat while a stoned person is driving then you are just as much an idiot as the driver

Driving under the influence of drink or drugs is illegal

And for your information it’s the same mindset that it’s fine to do so sees drunk people get into cars and drive
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53? I don't think so
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He looks much younger than 53

Yeah true .. maybe it was a bogus post


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…I think that ‘terrorism’ needs to be looked at to be redefined and not necessarily attached to political/idealogical motivations…that political etc terrorism is not the only form of this type of indiscriminate violence and intent to cause harm and chaos and…terror….
I 100% agree with you.

Nearly everything this psycho did would be called terrorism if it was a member of Hamas that had committed the offense, so I feel like that it should be classed under the terrorism umbrella for this guy.
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Old 27-05-2025, 07:04 AM #86
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…the article this morning that I read said the most severe of the injured was one duly and one child particularly so I don’t know if they were together…parent and child, type thing…
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Is it terrorism if he was absolutely pizzed off his head ( straight out of a boozer)! ?


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They said Southport wasn't terror related too.....
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this was no terrorism, this is a 53 yr old british citizens who did this


although i wonder what political views he got, is he anti-foreigners/Pro-Reform?


wouldn't be the first far right wacko to pull off something like this though, since you also see this from far right supporters in germany
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Personally think we should be careful about broadening the definition of terrorism. If we just call every serious crime an act of terror then we might fail to address the roots of actual terrorism properly - that which is driven by dangerous ideologies. Plus anti-terrorism has it's own set of laws, standards and policing so we don't just want to start applying these to every crime

If there are two silver linings to this horror then it's that no one has died and that this wasn't terrorism (or so it seems for now) because that would have even more awful implications
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…the article this morning that I read said the most severe of the injured was one duly and one child particularly so I don’t know if they were together…parent and child, type thing…

Local reporter on TalkSport now saying the vehicle eventually came to a halt there were four people trapped UNDERNEATH it ( including one child) !!


It sounds horrific !!


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Personally think we should be careful about broadening the definition of terrorism. If we just call every serious crime an act of terror then we might fail to address the roots of actual terrorism properly - that which is driven by dangerous ideologies. Plus anti-terrorism has it's own set of laws, standards and policing so we don't just want to start applying these to every crime

If there are two silver linings to this horror then it's that no one has died and that this wasn't terrorism (or so it seems for now) because that would have even more awful implications


By now,

they should say
he came out of a Pub/Bar,
then into his car.



Its in the Times Newspaper
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It was actually the Police who said the man is 53 though so I doubt it, there's no chance that man is 53. At the very most he looks early 30s
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The Right side photo of a younger fella
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It was actually the Police who said the man is 53 though so I doubt it, there's no chance that man is 53. At the very most he looks early 30s
…it’s just another layer of ‘horror’ that such serious falsehoods can be posted on social media, which again…only incites…
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Was he fleeing an angry mob after clipping someone with his car. He did sound his horn as he drove..
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Horrific, absolutely horrific.
It's hard to imagine the fear that those witnessing this, and who were injured because of it felt too.
Thankfully so far, no loss of life however what number now have massively life changing injuries.
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Horrific, absolutely horrific.
It's hard to imagine the fear that those witnessing this, and who were injured because of it felt too.
Thankfully so far, no loss of life however what number now have massively life changing injuries.
instate more armed military personnel patrolling the streets to prevent people acting too crazy


more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings
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