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Originally Posted by Wildcat!

SOme christian will argue, that if God showed himself,and gave you irrefutable proof, it would not longer be able to say I didnt know. So anything evil you did, would be unforgivable.
It all has to do with us proving ourselves to be able to make up our own mind, with the little unproven guidance we received. WIll you choose right from wrong without the proof that god exists.

See, I believe in god and my religion, but I do not believe that non believers will all go to hell. I think its even more admirable for someone to be good, even though they don't believe in god, and dont think there will be consequences for their actions in the after life. And if I can see the logic in that, I don't see how the almighty god, would not see it.

Good points, but it seems like such a cheap way out, to chalk it all up to free will. What about people in isolated parts of the world who have no knowledge of anything outside there own indigenous culture? Are they going to hell? I know you don't believe in that but isin't that what happens to non believers?

Understand gods infinite love for you or suffer eternal damnation?

So anything evil you did, would be unforgivable.

I thought the whole point of Jesus was to redeem us and save us from our sins no matter what?

Wait a second...

...I have lost track of myself.

Can you start to see the thousands of interpretations out there? How do you know which one is right?

Dozens of books, dozens of authors, hundreds of edits, dozens of versions, thousands of years, historical and scientific, provable inaccuracies no matter which version.

And this is the basis for some sort of coherent faith?

Sorry, but call me faithless. It's too big a pill to swallow.