[Tom]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

its just a bogus question however you try to dress it up

and a very old one at that

Its only a bogus question because its something that can't be justified by Christians.

[InOne]

Might be old but you can't refute it...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom

Philosophical answer because otherwise its logic- 1, religion- 0. Comparing it to the triangle argument is ridiculous, because whilst you can't make a 2 sided triangle or whatever, you CAN make a rock thats too heavy, or you can't do it. So either way he isn't omnipotent.

it is just another straw man argument. google has many for you to choose from.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Might be old but you can't refute it...

it is about as valid an argument as "you smell so there"

[Lewis.]

Well, If he was omnipotent, then yes - which contradicts the fact that he is omnipotent.. logically that means that God is not omnipotent.

[Tom]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

it is about as valid an argument as "you smell so there"

No, because you're basing that on opinion so its different. The following 2 scenarios are plain FACTS and you cannot deny them how much you try

1) You CAN make a rock thats too heavy to lift- therefore you can't lift it
2) You CANNOT make a rock thats too heavy to lift- therefore you can't do it

Therefore in either scenario there is something you CANNOT do.

How can you compare that to personal opinion or illogical things? I bet if there was a clearer argument that was basically the same pointing towards God's existence, Christians would be shouting it from the roof tops as solid proof.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The word "omnipotent" is never used in the Bible

[30stone]

No, i tried, the rock was huge, i could lift it still easily

[Lewis.]

lmao

[Crimson Dynamo]

I know for a fact that this was not here yesterday so i think Inone has some humble pie to eat?

[Rob]

nope he doesn't exsist

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Rob

nope he doesn't exsist

InOne?

[Tom]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The word "omnipotent" is never used in the Bible

Then why do Christians give him the 4 attributes that all contradict themselves anyway? It only goes against their argument ...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Tom

Then why do Christians give him the 4 attributes that all contradict themselves anyway? It only goes against their argument ...

yes you are right, 2000 years of worship down the drain. I will call the church and let them know.

[InOne]

Christians use the word omnipotent when they dress creationism up as 'intelligent design'

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by InOne

Christians use the word omnipotent when they dress creationism up as 'intelligent design'

lol

i have never heard a Christian use the word omnipotent in my life. You should darken the inside a church rather than surf the odd atheist website

[InOne]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

lol

i have never heard a Christian use the word omnipotent in my life. You should darken the inside a church rather than surf the odd atheist website

They always use it lol omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient are like Creationists 3 favourite words, fancy words for a whole load of bollocks

[Niamh.]

ahhhhh, the age old question JoeJoe............

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

ahhhhh, the age old question JoeJoe............

The answer is no

[Stu]

The real question is could he turn it into wine and convince people to hand over money at fixed intervals for it's preservation.

[Fom]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yes you are right, 2000 years of worship down the drain. I will call the church and let them know.

To think that it was all created 2000 years ago, when people were extremely Naive and some people still believe it... is laughable in my eyes.

[Stu]

If Scientology had got there first we would all be slaves to the Grand Overlord of the planet Sciratchu right now, laughing and looking down on this bizzare new Hollywood fad known as Christianity.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Fom

To think that it was all created 2000 years ago, when people were extremely Naive and some people still believe it... is laughable in my eyes.

The myth that somehow 2000 years ago people were naive is alive and well. People were probably a lot less naive than they are now. Just because they did not have cars, internet and lady gaga does not make them naive.

What is laughable is how every generation thinks that they are the clever ones, the ones who know, the ones who have worked it all out.


and then comes the next generation.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

If Scientology had got there first we would all be slaves to the Grand Overlord of the planet Sciratchu right now, laughing and looking down on this bizzare new Hollywood fad known as Christianity.

Exactly!! What you believe in completly depends on what part of the world brain washed you!!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

Exactly!! What you believe in completly depends on what part of the world brain washed you!!

yes, the point is of course valid, or wait hang on, perhaps the latter has no basis in truth or reality and therefore would have got no further than the myriad of other "faiths and false messiahs" around at that time..

to think that Christianity was just the one that was around at that time is to fully misunderstand the period, the message, the history and the reality.


that said scientology and science are words that sound similar so do the math...