[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

tbh, I don't even find people falling over funny, you've been framed is crap. Don't tell me what I think, how could you possibly know?

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

[Enid]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

[WOMBAI]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

I think what you are talking about is curiosity - which is based on fear - but it is far too sweeping a statement to say that subconciously we all like to see others suffer in any serious kind of way!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

Because we don't want to be taken for a fool

[setanta]

Originally Posted by Enid

Yeah.

Why do we listen to depressing music or films that we know will make us feel depressed? Why, when we have the feeling our partner is cheating, do we feel the need to check their inbox and discover their dirty little secret when we know it will break our heart?

It's subconscious behaviour. We can deny it all we like, but we like to suffer and we like to watch others suffer too.

Nah, I think that's masochistic behaviour, which we all have a natural tendency to partake in from time to time. And then yeah, there's a sadistic element in all humans, which is more pronounced in some individuals.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

I'm not trying to tell you what you think. It's in your subcouncious. Your not thinking it.

People missing the point all round the gaf here.

So I'm feeling it then? I'm just trying to understand what you mean by that, I know I don't enjoy it so what do you mean by subconsciously exactly?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

So I'm feeling it then? I'm just trying to understand what you mean by that, I know I don't enjoy it so what do you mean by subconsciously exactly?

Your subconscious as in, say, the thoughts that never get thunk [?!]. Your conscious mind is made up of thoughts you decided to drag up from the subconscious. That's who you are. All those other junk thoughts and who you are not, they stay down in the subconscious. Who knows, it could be in my subconscious to be a murderer. That shouldn't shock you. What matters is what makes it to the conscious state and the choices you make. That defines who you are.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Your subconscious as in, say, the thoughts that never get thunk [?!]. Your conscious mind is made up of thoughts you decided to drag up from the subconscious. That's who you are. All those other junk thoughts and who you are not, they stay down in the subconscious. Who knows, it could be in my subconscious to be a murderer. That shouldn't shock you. What matters is what makes it to the conscious state and the choices you make. That defines who you are.

So how could anybody possibly know what is in our subconscious mind If they haven't been thought at all?

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

So how could anybody possibly know what is in our subconscious mind If they haven't been thought at all?

Beats me. I'm not a neurological scientist. But neurological scientists exist.

Your dreams, for instance, are often a result of your subconscious slipping in and taking control when you fall asleep.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot

Beats me. I'm not a neurological scientist. But neurological scientists exist.

Your dreams, for instance, are often a result of your subconscious slipping in and taking control when you fall asleep.

even if neurological scientists can see what thoughts are in your subconscious, every person is different so they still couldn't say for definite that every person enjoys watching others suffer unless they've tested every person (or whatever they do)

[Stu]

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

even if neurological scientists can see what thoughts are in your subconscious, every person is different so they still couldn't say for definite that every person enjoys watching others suffer unless they've tested every person (or whatever they do)

They can't see specific thoughts. It's not like a cystal ball nestling in the basement of a neuroscience lab. But evolution has afforded us all certain things. Girls have vaginas. Men have dicks. We all share certain thought patterns and whatnot. Amongst them, the instinctual ability to take pleasure from human suffering.

It's not a case of 'everyone is different'. Everyone is different, yes, consciously speaking. But we are not consciously speaking, here.

Why do children have an instinctual fear of monsters? Because in the early stages of human evolution, our predecessors were snatched away in the jaws of cougars at night.