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Originally Posted by Jack_

But in some [or most] cases it's rather obvious, and well in this case if they've managed to prove it then they have been proven guilty, no?

Again, there's a way to deal with it properly, rather than to indulge in hear'say, you know? It's never completely obvious and should be treated with a certain element of decorum and discretion. That's what I think anyway.