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Originally Posted by Niamhxo

The examples that you gave were in my opinion, the best of a bad lot most likely. This is a TV Show manufacturing a singer chances are 9/10 of them will fail.

Don't agree with that. Rhydian >>>>>> Leon especially

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

They don't make their own music and I would doubt after their year is up get much attention from the record company tbh.

Don't agree with this either. These are Syco's current artists:

# Westlife (2002–present)
# Il Divo (2004–present)
# Shayne Ward (2005–present)
# Leona Lewis (2006–present)
# Alexandra Burke (2008–present)
# Andrew Johnston (2008–present)
# Susan Boyle (2009–present)
# Joe McElderry (2009–present)
# Olly Murs (2010–present)
# Labrinth (2010–present)[6]
# Jackie Evancho (2010-present)

Seven of those are artists from TV talent shows. Their previous artists are exactly the same, except there's eight:

* Gareth Gates (2002–2006, dropped/left)[8]
* Steve Brookstein (2004–2005, dropped)
* Bianca Ryan (2006–2008, dropped/left)
* Angelis (2006–2007, dropped/disbanded)
* Leon Jackson (2007–2009, dropped)
* Same Difference (2007–2009, dropped)[9]
* George Sampson (2008–2009, dropped)[10]
* Rhydian (2007–2010, left)[11]
* Paul Potts (2007–2010, dropped/left)[12]
* Escala (2008–2010, dropped)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syco

All the attention will be on them. And the fact that they don't make their own music is irrelevant, considering 90% of mainstream artists nowadays don't make their own music. It's the world we live in - that's the way the market works.

Originally Posted by Niamhxo

where to start! first and foremost I don't like her voice, she's murdered pretty much every song she's sung so far (the ones she's remembered the words to anyway!)
I dont think she should have gotten through to the live shows over much more talented girls (who remembered the words to their songs)
Her dramatics piss me right off, sitting on the floor and saying "sod it" for example.
And she just generally irritates me, the sound of her voice (speaking) grates on me nearly as much as her singing voice.

Regarding her voice - fair enough.

Regarding the 'other talented girls' - I disagree, as although they had good vocal talent, they had no stage presence or personality and Katie's image is/was far superior to theirs. I genuinely think Cheryl picked the right three initially, they were easily the most diverse and interesting of the eight - that's something that not only makes a good category, but it makes a good show as well - and of course entertainment is the main factor in creating this show.

Regarding the 'sod it' - like I said, how do you think she feels after being subjected to weeks and weeks of unnecessary abuse and bile being spouted at her in the press and online? She must feel hated. And for someone that's done nothing wrong, except star in a television show [where Cheryl decided to put her through, not herself] and be ambitious - that's got to be hard to deal with. People act like she's murdered someone. It's no surprise that one day she would get fed up with it and so she just happened to think aloud 'sod it'. I think she expected she would be going anyway [like we all did, including myself] - and so there was, essentially, no 'point'.