[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I'm not saying he is never in the wrong, and his aggressive side quite scares me at times. Even more so after actually speaking to some people he drinks with on the outside (but thats besides the point and nothing to do with BB)

But the majority of 'bad jay' storylines...have been more about someone else, and hes just guilty by association. Hes played his part, with the bitching and that, but it seems to be someone else who takes the lead role in it, and then Jay gets equal blame.

He has a horrible temper problem, and I think some people play on that...to hide behind him. Louise especially. I have no doubts that she would sell her own granny to win, and now she seems to be trying to take jay out of the competition too. Something that struck me as odd yesterday...was her bringing up the ladyboy story again and then sitting looking disgusted. She KNEW about the ladyboy thing, they discussed it a while back, so why bring it up in the final week and be disgusted now...when she laughed about it last time?!

Couldn't agree more with you on Louise - been saying the same thing for weeks on here.

Jay - nah, I don't see it Vicky. Not saying it's not a possibility - but for me - I may have blinkers on but I'm adamant that he's the type that acts - then realises the damage he's done after he's lost the tattie - and then gets all remorseful.

Regardless if it's going along with a very bad idea; to being aggressive and violent.

This is one that it's highly doubtful that I'll be giving him the benefit of the doubt on. It's a cycle we've seen with Jay over the past few weeks: and I don't like it.

[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I think you will find that the true fact is: if Jay and Louise had not behaved in such a sneaky, sly, conniving manner - there would be nothing to have an atmosphere over.

Oh, I'm sure Aaron would have found something. He always does.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

I'm very much in Aaron's corner and while I'm no online doctor and would never profess to be, I was merely making an observation based on what I've been seeng (or rather, what we have been shown).

Like I say: online diagnosis of an illness based on nothing more than a highly edited, highly manipulated show - to me - is sheer folly.

Whether you are an Aaron fan or not.

I also think there's the danger that some fms for all you or I know, may post on here and they may suffer from Aspergers and you could cause offence. (just saying....)

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Oh, I'm sure Aaron would have found something. He always does.

I agree with you 100%, he's such a petulant, miserable and moody guy.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

I agree with you 100%, he's such a petulant, miserable and moody guy.

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

[spintronic]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Damn Facebook Big Brother won't let me link to specific vid but on http://apps.facebook.com/bigbrother-uk/

this is the third time he's apologised and alright he gets a bit too angry sometimes but he's shown today that he can be mild mannered and reasonable as well, it's good to see

Edit - Youtube vid:

Youtube video

For every one of your "mild mannered Jay clips".

Do we as the human population, have to put up with the gross;

"I'd kill - (**** in kettle)- (spark out)-(kick the **** out of him)- (I'd twat him)" experiences?

I'll think you'll find this amusing.

Aggression like Jays, (ACTUALLY KILLS PEOPLE)

No wonder Louise looks nervous.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

People deal with their anger in different ways, Aaron's way is just to ignore people for the next few days and not kick up a huge fuss but with people like Jay and Harry they seem to just have a rant, get it off their chest but then they're able to sit down and talk about it afterwards

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

This.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

Oh come on Pyramid, you're not trying to tell me Jay is as moody as Aaron?

I may not agree with you on your liking of Aaron but I've respected your view, but I can't on this one I'm afraid

[Kate!]

The aspergers post in this thread is offensive.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

People deal with their anger in different ways, Aaron's way is just to ignore people for the next few days and not kick up a huge fuss but with people like Jay and Harry they seem to just have a rant, get it off their chest but then they're able to sit down and talk about it afterwards

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

[showtime77]

Jay thinks on a very simplistic level and is easily led. I think he is lucky that he didn't give that little rant of his to Aaron but to the other house mates instead.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by *Kate*

The aspergers post in this thread is offensive.

Thank you Kate, I thought so as well but I am glad someone else feels the same way.

[Objectivegirl]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Like I say: online diagnosis of an illness based on nothing more than a highly edited, highly manipulated show - to me - is sheer folly.

Whether you are an Aaron fan or not.

I also think there's the danger that some fms for all you or I know, may post on here and they may suffer from Aspergers and you could cause offence. (just saying....)

I think you are reading a wee bit too much into this. There is a world of difference between an observation and a diagnosis. And no offence was ever intended... Anyway, to get back to the point, it'll be interesting to see how all this has affected Thursday's outcome

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of

[Ammi]

I don't have a problem with 'rants' but Jay saying he would physically hurt Aaron if they were on the outside is stepping far beyond a 'rant'..if I've ever found myself softening towards Jay having a gentler side...he just threw ice cold water over me last night......I detest (yes , that is a strong word) everything he stands for

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

Like I say: online diagnosis of an illness based on nothing more than a highly edited, highly manipulated show - to me - is sheer folly.

Whether you are an Aaron fan or not.

I also think there's the danger that some fms for all you or I know, may post on here and they may suffer from Aspergers and you could cause offence. (just saying....)

Originally Posted by *Kate*

The aspergers post in this thread is offensive.

Originally Posted by Objectivegirl

I think you are reading a wee bit too much into this. There is a world of difference between an observation and a diagnosis. And no offence was ever intended... Anyway, to get back to the point, it'll be interesting to see how all this has affected Thursday's outcome

I don't need to read too much into anything - you may not have intended causing offence: but it appears that has happened - with your observation. Do you have any relevant experience or professional background in which you are able to make such comment 'based on your observations'.?

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of



Well that was an incoherent rant, did my post offend you

nah... I'm not going to be able to meet you half way on this one. It's ain't gonna happen! C'est la vie.

[fingers]

Youtube video

Aaron talks to the viewers (well there was no one else there!) lol

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by fingers

Youtube video

Aaron talks to the viewers (well there was no one else there!) lol

True: they were in the bedroom bitching about him....... I'd rather talk to the viewers too - because he said the same thing as many of us happened to be thinking.

OMG... the man is a psychic. We've got to all vote for him on that premise alone.

[fingers]

Is this the action of a normal thinking reasonable man of 30 or does it look like the petulant tantrum of a 5 year old just-out-of-kindergarten kiddie?

Youtube video

I know what I think!

[jet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of



Well that was an incoherent rant, did my post offend you

I agree. I applaud him for his self control in the house. I don't think his temper can be that bad though - I think most of it is just verbally letting off steam. If he has a history of violence or a police record about ANYTHING he wouldn't have gotten into the house.
It has been proved in those vid clips that he can be very reasonable and calm and open to civil discussion about issues that bother him. He's a good kid at heart. He is definitely a bigger man than Aaron in so many ways - by a mile.

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

Totally agree Pyramid, and I speak from personal experience having lived with someone like that for 10 years. He was always sorry afterwards, but what good is that? Give me a sulker over a thug any day.

[the truth]

still absurd that aaron can be so judgemental when he lied and went back on his word about group nominations and waited till the last minute to do so.
he also ruined the entire letter writing from loved ones and 2 birthday parties amongst many other occasions

yes he was finally marginally in the right on this issue but after 70 days of teenage strops he had to finally find something to really strop about. his behaviour has been pathetic throughout.

[soundslike]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I'm not saying he is never in the wrong, and his aggressive side quite scares me at times. Even more so after actually speaking to some people he drinks with on the outside (but thats besides the point and nothing to do with BB)But the majority of 'bad jay' storylines...have been more about someone else, and hes just guilty by association. Hes played his part, with the bitching and that, but it seems to be someone else who takes the lead role in it, and then Jay gets equal blame.

He has a horrible temper problem, and I think some people play on that...to hide behind him. Louise especially. I have no doubts that she would sell her own granny to win, and now she seems to be trying to take jay out of the competition too. Something that struck me as odd yesterday...was her bringing up the ladyboy story again and then sitting looking disgusted. She KNEW about the ladyboy thing, they discussed it a while back, so why bring it up in the final week and be disgusted now...when she laughed about it last time?!

I wish people would give that sappy comment a rest! what do you think hes going to do kick through your tv screens and beat the living delights out of you. Have a word with yourselves!



And the other comment yes it has nothing to do with BB anyone can say anything about the hms.