[MachoPoodle]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I think you will find that the true fact is: if Jay and Louise had not behaved in such a sneaky, sly, conniving manner - there would be nothing to have an atmosphere over.

Oh, I'm sure Aaron would have found something. He always does.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by MachoPoodle

Oh, I'm sure Aaron would have found something. He always does.

I agree with you 100%, he's such a petulant, miserable and moody guy.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by Incensed

I agree with you 100%, he's such a petulant, miserable and moody guy.

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

People deal with their anger in different ways, Aaron's way is just to ignore people for the next few days and not kick up a huge fuss but with people like Jay and Harry they seem to just have a rant, get it off their chest but then they're able to sit down and talk about it afterwards

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

People deal with their anger in different ways, Aaron's way is just to ignore people for the next few days and not kick up a huge fuss but with people like Jay and Harry they seem to just have a rant, get it off their chest but then they're able to sit down and talk about it afterwards

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

[Angus]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

Totally agree Pyramid, and I speak from personal experience having lived with someone like that for 10 years. He was always sorry afterwards, but what good is that? Give me a sulker over a thug any day.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by angus58

Totally agree Pyramid, and I speak from personal experience having lived with someone like that for 10 years. He was always sorry afterwards, but what good is that? Give me a sulker over a thug any day.

Yep, and it's in the cold light of day, it dawns on them what they actually did or said - their guilt kicks in - and we see the same cycle that we've been watching with Jay for weeks now - with his behaviour towards Aaron, in fact, since just before Anton got the boot - it has progressively become worse - and more evident.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

This is a gross exaggeration. I've seen Jay punching a cushion (which is a sensible way of dealing with anger), throwing something on the ground and stomping on a few bananas. I can't reconcile that with ''violent outbursts' being 'totally out of control' or 'face ready to blow up'. If it was as you describe, he would have been thrown out of the house, or at the least the HM's would be afraid and talking about all this among themselves.
Instead, they talk about Aaron and how HE is affecting the whole house with his passive aggressiveness. That seems to upset them far more.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

I understand that people deal with anger in different ways.

When was the last time you lived with someone, shared a house with someone, with such violent and aggressive outbursts - in real rages, that they go around puching objects, are totally out of control, unable to contain their rage, shouting, face ready to blow up, eyes popping out of their head - all the things Jay does.

You should try it sometime and see if you think it's 'just a way to get things off their chest'.

And I'm not being facetious: I'm being dead serious.,

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of

[jet]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of



Well that was an incoherent rant, did my post offend you

I agree. I applaud him for his self control in the house. I don't think his temper can be that bad though - I think most of it is just verbally letting off steam. If he has a history of violence or a police record about ANYTHING he wouldn't have gotten into the house.
It has been proved in those vid clips that he can be very reasonable and calm and open to civil discussion about issues that bother him. He's a good kid at heart. He is definitely a bigger man than Aaron in so many ways - by a mile.

[Pyramid*]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think that's a bit of an exaggeration, he's never completely lost his grip on his anger, at worst he's taken it out on a pillow and to be honest I think in that environment anger must be incredibly hard to deal with because you can't escape it, he knows that he gets angry easily and it isn't something he's proud of



Well that was an incoherent rant, did my post offend you

nah... I'm not going to be able to meet you half way on this one. It's ain't gonna happen! C'est la vie.

[fingers]

Is this the action of a normal thinking reasonable man of 30 or does it look like the petulant tantrum of a 5 year old just-out-of-kindergarten kiddie?

Youtube video

I know what I think!

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

This.

[Incensed]

Originally Posted by Pyramid*

LOL..... and Jay isn't?!!!

Moody - how many aggressive mood swings does Jay have to take before people realise he is as much moody as Aaron is (if not more so).


(who was the one who has been going on about this since the night of the birthday party - and days later!! It's Jay!!).

Oh come on Pyramid, you're not trying to tell me Jay is as moody as Aaron?

I may not agree with you on your liking of Aaron but I've respected your view, but I can't on this one I'm afraid

[Ammi]

I don't have a problem with 'rants' but Jay saying he would physically hurt Aaron if they were on the outside is stepping far beyond a 'rant'..if I've ever found myself softening towards Jay having a gentler side...he just threw ice cold water over me last night......I detest (yes , that is a strong word) everything he stands for