[BBFanDan]

Jay had really hardcore Facebook and Twitter supporters tho, a lot more than Aaron.

Aaron must of had more fans in general.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by BBFanDan

Jay had really hardcore Facebook and Twitter supporters tho, a lot more than Aaron.

Aaron must of had more fans in general.

That does not necessarily follow. Scott's point is that the number of distinct voters was probably quite low compared to previous years, but those who didn't mind buying umpteen bargain-bucket FB credits voted a lot.

In other words, the number of distinct followers/supporters a HM has is not necessarily the deciding factor. A lesser pool of supporters can easily outvote them by piling-on the credits.

[Becker]

Originally Posted by Claymores

That does not necessarily follow. Scott's point is that the number of distinct voters was probably quite low compared to previous years, but those who didn't mind buying umpteen bargain-bucket FB credits voted a lot.

In other words, the number of distinct followers/supporters a HM has is not necessarily the deciding factor. A lesser pool of supporters can easily outvote them by piling-on the credits.

Each housemate has x amount of supporters some of whom will vote by phone, some will vote via facebook and some will not vote at all.

Aaron won because he had more votes than the other housemates, ergo more supporters. Beyond that people can spout all the conspiracy stories they like.

Unless people can prove that he had a smaller fan base than others they really need to get a grip on reality. The lad won because more people supported him than the others - get over it

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by Becker

Aaron won because he had more votes than the other housemates, ergo more supporters.

Can you not see that cannot be said to be true. The use of "ergo" is entirely erroneous and inappropriate......one does not follow the other as a matter of course. In point of fact, I responded above to the poster's observation that Jay had "a lot more supporters" on FB and Twitter.

And there is no suggestion of conspiracy. There is no need for a conspiracy. The link between supporter numbers and votes cast is quite weak. Indeed, the advent of FB voting is bound to reinforce this trend in that you could not simply vote once (as with phone voting alone) as there was a minimum purchase.

I also need not get over anything as I couldn't care which of them had received the most votes!

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Becker

Unless people can prove that he had a smaller fan base than others they really need to get a grip on reality. The lad won because more people supported him than the others - get over it

Yes, agree with this.

I think theres something to scotts theory really. Less viewers = more power to the forums. Aaron was the most popular housemate on EVERY forum by a considerable margin, hence he won.

Whilst Jay had an organised twitter campaign and loads of facebook fans and that, that does not always equal votes. I would guess at probably around 1 in 5 people who joined his fanpage actually voting. I remember during BB10 when someone would argue til they were blue in the face with me that funtime charlie would win because he had 50k supporters on facebook or something...when in actual fact, that facebook group was just recruiting people from newcastle to support a 'local'. Some of my friends joined the [page when they dont even watch big brother. I received an invite myself near the start of that series. People who join just because the person is local are very unlikely to actually vote.

Put quite simply, people on forums are more into the show than people who join fanpages on facebook. So people on forums are more likely to vote. So, whilst viewing figures remain relatively low, the forums have the majority of the power. The casual vote no longer decides the winner, so we are quite unlikely to get the dull and inoffensive winner anymore. Hence Jay and Aaron coming top 2 and Alex missing out. Even without facebook voting, IMO the result would have been the same.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Claymores

That does not necessarily follow. Scott's point is that the number of distinct voters was probably quite low compared to previous years, but those who didn't mind buying umpteen bargain-bucket FB credits voted a lot.

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So what you are basically saying is that Alex, Louise and Jay fans couldnt be bothered to vote bargain bucket... well thats too bad.

[Claymores]

Originally Posted by CherieB

So what you are basically saying is that Alex, Louise and Jay fans couldnt be bothered to vote bargain bucket... well thats too bad.

Yup - that's the game and format. Altho a more positive way to look on it might be to say that Aaron fans were more passionate and committed to their cause!

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by BBFanDan

Jay had really hardcore Facebook and Twitter supporters tho, a lot more than Aaron.

Aaron must of had more fans in general.

No matter what each HM had equal chances with their fanbases. I personally voted by phone I have great trouble getting into fb to vote lol. Many wouldnt be bothered to use fb, many do not have pcs.