[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Kris

No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.

You have a very high opinion of BB fans, then.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Didn't mean you at all, I commended you for being consistent.
I take all things seriously and I have had a fair bit to take on here this series in fact.

Life's too short Joey...take it from an old timer!

I've read tons of your posts over the past couple of years, and have come to respect your dedicated thoughtfulness when posting your views[and our friend The Mockinator too!]...but it really is not worth taking too serious my young friend, ...but perhaps only time will reveal this truism. ...I'd better shut up now, because I keep banging on about not liking preachers!

Cheers buddy.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by lily.

I agree. Before Daley assaulted her, the public was against Hazel. She was viewed as a home-wrecker. She broke the girl-code by openly flirting with someone who has a girlfriend, and female viewers do not like that.

After Daley assaulted her, some viewers were sympathetic. I feel bad for her for what happened to her in the safe house, however, I dislike her as a person, and that won't change just because something bad happened to her.

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The initial dislike started with the Daley showmance, since then she's just become an easy target for hateful people.

He's not entirely wrong though: Gina has been clear about disliking Hazel and the public, for some reason, think the sun shines out of Gina's arse. In reality, as her reaction to the snake costume in the DR shows, she's just another one of those hateful, immature people who gets her jollies from seeing people upset. No wonder "the public" likes her... like attracts like, I suppose.

Absolutely-Gina's horrible and a total hypocrite; the great British public'll get the "winner" it deserves.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well at least you are constant all the way through and I respect you for that.

Rather than just chopping and changing your tune all the time, trying to wind others up that like him.

Hey Joey,we sing from the same song sheet,it's hard to wade through the crap sometimes,but it'll be worth it in the end I don't mind Dan at all there are far worse than him in there.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Speedster

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?.

It's not even that. Charlie pulled dexter into the shower and tried to get her to kiss him. He (at least as far as the housemates are concerned) has a girlfriend. NO ONE CARES. Yet it's exactly the same thing Hazel is demonized for. Allegedly. Verdict: it's an excuse, people just have it in for her and use any "reason" that seems plausible.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It's what people seem to believe! The same people who brand any young girl in a short skirt a "slut" and think it was her own fault if some pervert decides to have a grope.

Even more mind-bogglingly - 99% of these people are other women :/. Women are misogynists. Who knew.

THIS. Women HATE other woman.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Speedster

Gina spent her time bitching about and punishing Hazel through horrible,humiliating tasks like cleaning the whole house for something like 7hrs while others had fun and got some nice food.

So what? Hazel was already disliked by then. I noticed the tide turning when she dropped Dan when he was up for eviction then increase when she went for the showmance.

Originally Posted by Speedster

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?.

Girl code means don't go after a man that's already taken. Where did you get that it means what you've stated? Gina was even harsher with Daley for the fact that he was in a relationship already. So no double standards from her.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Indy

If it's about looks, why on earth did Wolfy and Jemima go so early?

I think they both went because they had strong opinions and weren't shy about expressing them; I think that's something else women don't like about other women.

[Indy]

Originally Posted by Speedster

I think they both went because they had strong opinions and weren't shy about expressing them; I think that's something else women don't like about other women.

Except Gina is favorite to win by a large margin...

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Indy

Except Gina is favorite to win by a large margin...

She hasn't won it yet and maybe if she was friendly to Hazel she wouldn't be so popular. As for Daley, he sort of deserved it.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Speedster

THIS. Women HATE other woman.

Not all women!

Hazel's been a trooper in the last couple of days. If Gina had been given the grief that Hazel's been handed she'd have imploded. Actually... I would tune in for that.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not all women!

Hazel's been a trooper in the last couple of days. If Gina had been given the grief that Hazel's been handed she'd have imploded. Actually... I would tune in for that.

I didn't mean all women, I should've made that distinction.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Speedster

I didn't mean all women, I should've made that distinction.

Oh okay... I'll stand down the hit squad :-)

[Braden]

Dan's boyfriend

[blue]

Originally Posted by Kris

No one is to blame for the public hating Hazel except for Hazel.

this.



i hope dan leaves on friday can't stand him or that hazel

[jegmeister]

what a sh*t-stirring slimeball that man is. Get him out!

[lily.]

Originally Posted by Speedster

By "girl-code" do you mean the double standard that basically means a man can do what he wants but a woman has to be careful?.

No. I mean the actual girl-code... which is a set of unwritten rules decent girls live by.. one of which is not scamming on another girl's man.

If you want my opinion on Daley... he's ten times worse than Hazel because he was the one who was in the relationship. He was the one who made a commitment/promise to one woman, then went on to behave shamelessly with another woman.

So, no, there's no double-standard meant by anything I posted.

[Miranda123]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

If you think about it why on earth would dan blame hazel, she explained to him he assaulted her....
Stands to reason he would naturally think there must be another explanation other than we live in a society that condones that behaviour?

If he had been a good detective he should have asked himself why the public would hate so much on a VICTIM?

Answer: The public dont think she is the VICTIM

[CaudleHalbard]

I think Dan will go very quiet on the Dazelgate issue. If I recall rightly he on said on BOTS he likes Daley, as well as Hazel.

[swinearefine]

I do agree with Dan to a degree. I understand that Hazel was a bitch to Gina early on but she's been fine the last few weeks and Gina really needs to just let it go.

[cheapbbfan]

I think its somewhat true. I didn't start to hate Hazel till Dexter and Gina were put in the safehouse and pinpointed all of Hazel's flaws. I didn't really notice how much of a snake she was till then and BB really ran with that, using Gina's commentary to edit a story

[smudgie]

I think it has turned around somewhat now. The Gina hate on Hazel is not doing her any good at all.
Hazel may still get evicted this week, but she is not as " hated" as she was before.

[Sandz38]

Dan was hazels only friend in that house I'm glad dexter has taken the time to talk to hazel and shows he is not trying to single her out or victimise her, I think gina needs to leave hazel alone it's not right and she could lose favour with fans for being nasty and fickle! Yes hazel did some silly things with Daley but only her and Daley know the truth behind that we saw what b.b allowed us to see


I love a good forum rant!!

[CaudleHalbard]

Almost certainly Hazel will be out in a few hours time. There won't be anyone for Gina to rant about then.