[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She is just a normal teenager who gets fed up at times, they do get nasty, it is in their hormones at that age.

She is doing very well considering all she has had chucked her way, some of these tasks are ridiculous and plain humiliating.

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

It's a bit unfair to bring her mother into it Kazanne. Why do you say she's pushy? If you're just pulling it out of thin air and have nothing to actually back it up then I'll ask you to stop as it is unfair to criticize family of HMs like that just because you don't like the actual HM

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's a bit unfair to bring her mother into it Kazanne. Why do you say she's pushy? If you're just pulling it out of thin air and have nothing to actually back it up then I'll ask you to stop as it is unfair to criticize family of HMs like that just because you don't like the actual HM

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

We can assume many things which might not be true.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

I would LOVE to see who she up against in "Miss Derry "(hardly miss Universe is it ?) A crossed eyed munter and a overweight bint with a limp are my guess

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I would LOVE to see who she up against in "Miss Derry "(hardly miss Universe is it ?) A crossed eyed munter and a overweight bint with a limp are my guess

wow how nasty Chuff

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

Helen is an actual HM though Kazanne. So what if she won Miss Derry, that doesn't say a single thing about her mother, funny how she's "only" 18 when it suits the argument eh?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Helen is an actual HM though Kazanne. So what if she won Miss Derry, that doesn't say a single thing about her mother, funny how she's "only" 18 when it suits the argument eh?

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

Fine use it all you want but It's unfair to use it against her mother, who's not a HM and should not be accused of being "pushy" or a bad mother when you really don't have a clue what kind of a mother or person she is.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Fine use it all you want but It's unfair to use it against her mother, who's not a HM and should not be accused of being "pushy" or a bad mother when you really don't have a clue what kind of a mother or person she is.

Well I'm a self confessed bitch,that's probably why I don't like the girl,I mean if you dislike someone so much at least have the bottle to let them know instead of pretending to be their friend.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Fine use it all you want but It's unfair to use it against her mother, who's not a HM and should not be accused of being "pushy" or a bad mother when you really don't have a clue what kind of a mother or person she is.

Yes she said pushy, nothing about her being a bad mother don't put words in peoples mouths.
It's not unusual for these 'pagent mom' types to be described as pushy and ashleigh does come across as a tad entitled and bratty at times.
That is not to be confused with the behaviour of your average 18yr old.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

It is a viable reason, she has been up against very much older housemates and done very well.

If she was in their age group, it would be fairer but as a test for Ashleigh's strength of character, she has played a very good strategic game.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

..actually the first person to mention her age was Helen who used it as an excuse to feel as though she should be treated differently and not subjected to her venom...and the only reason it's used on the forum is because of the childish behaviour we have seen so often in the house and the contrast to a lot of Ashleigh's behaviour...I'm always right, always right, always right, always right..etc....

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..actually the first person to mention her age was Helen who used it as an excuse to feel as though she should be treated differently and not subjected to her venom...and the only reason it's used on the forum is because of the childish behaviour we have seen so often in the house and the contrast to a lot of Ashleigh's behaviour...I'm always right, always right, always right, always right..etc....

Not as I recall. th first person to use it was ashleigh herself tbf, we're not discussing helen at the moment.
It's used a lot on the forum to excuse ashleighs manipulative and aggressive outbursts mainly.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

..a very few posters may have mentioned Helen's parenting skills and that's just as wrong I agree, I think most people would agree that was right or necessary because those are all assumptions as well ...her mum/parents may have supported her in whatever she's wanted in life...don't most parents do that but that's not in any way being pushy or something either Ashleigh or her mum should have criticism laid at them for....

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

I think she is missing someone of her own age to do the girlie things which she likes to do.

However, be honest, who wouldn't be miserable with that lot in there and of course she laughs at others, they want to be funny, that's why they act as they do. Haven't you seen Winston and thee others laughing alongside her as well.

As for her mother, they all go on BB to support their kids, good for them all, I don't think it is the parents choice they go in there, who would want that sort of reception on eviction night for their child but would support them if it is their choice.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I think she is missing someone of her own age to do the girlie things which she likes to do.

However, be honest, who wouldn't be miserable with that lot in there and of course she laughs at others, they want to be funny, that's why they act as they do. Haven't you seen Winston and thee others laughing alongside her as well.

As for her mother, they all go on BB to support their kids, good for them all, I don't think it is the parents choice they go in there, who would want that sort of reception on eviction night for their child but would support them if it is their choice.

Absolutely.