[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I certainly won't admit something which is blatantly incorrect. Why get yourself in such a state over an 18 year old who is no better or worse than many others.

Will you stop dragging her age into everything

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She is just a normal teenager who gets fed up at times, they do get nasty, it is in their hormones at that age.

She is doing very well considering all she has had chucked her way, some of these tasks are ridiculous and plain humiliating.

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Nell_McCoy

Do none of you remember being eighteen and how you would have felt at the idea of a man in his thirties going to lick your ear. She was disgusted at the task and she wanted to make that clear to BB, to her family and her boyfriend. Had she allowed the pawing, licking and straddling to take place she would have got the Noirin treatment from many on this forum and been accused of leading Chris on. It was a revolting unfair task to both Chris and Ashleigh I'm sorry they didn't just refuse to do it altogether but both did the best they could and Ashleigh in no way deliberately tried to hurt Chris.

Exactly...it was a pathetic task anyway...it was as cringe as the George Galloway/Rula lenska scenario...making people look really stupid. I think Ashleigh felt for Chris having to do it and as an18 year old you wouldn't want a 30 year old man doing that to you anyway.

[Nell_McCoy]

I am not sure where the information about the "Pushy Mother" comes from and what evidence there is to support it. House Mates are fair game to a certain extent - their family members are not.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I don't see her as anything other than a typical 18 year old girl. She is neither the fairy princess or spawn of Satan that many would have us believe.

What people don't know, they make up, on both sides of the fence, its hilarious.

You're dead right.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Will you stop dragging her age into everything

No, it is a relevant issue when her fellow housemates are older and doing exactly the same as her, the only thing is, she does it better.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

No, it is a relevant issue when her fellow housemates are older and doing exactly the same as her, the only thing is, she does it better.

oh fgs

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

It's a bit unfair to bring her mother into it Kazanne. Why do you say she's pushy? If you're just pulling it out of thin air and have nothing to actually back it up then I'll ask you to stop as it is unfair to criticize family of HMs like that just because you don't like the actual HM

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

The only time she laughs is at someone elses expense(look back at the tasks) she is the most miserable woman I've seen in a while,must be that pushy mommy,pushing her in front of crowds to assure her she is 'beautiful',she needs to let go and learn how to play!

I think she is missing someone of her own age to do the girlie things which she likes to do.

However, be honest, who wouldn't be miserable with that lot in there and of course she laughs at others, they want to be funny, that's why they act as they do. Haven't you seen Winston and thee others laughing alongside her as well.

As for her mother, they all go on BB to support their kids, good for them all, I don't think it is the parents choice they go in there, who would want that sort of reception on eviction night for their child but would support them if it is their choice.

[mrflibble]

I don't think she was being mean, it's just her sense of humour (it's very dry and blunt). Chris was laughing as well. She smiled at the end of the pool task.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

oh fgs

I agree, it was a good point which shouldn't be overlooked.

It is only a game.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's a bit unfair to bring her mother into it Kazanne. Why do you say she's pushy? If you're just pulling it out of thin air and have nothing to actually back it up then I'll ask you to stop as it is unfair to criticize family of HMs like that just because you don't like the actual HM

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by HBB1508

To me she has a really nasty glint in her eye when Chris was splashing her - I thought she was going to lamp him at one point - not a very nice girl at all imo.

Yes and she made sure his name was mentioned,lol anyone else but him

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

We can assume many things which might not be true.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

I would LOVE to see who she up against in "Miss Derry "(hardly miss Universe is it ?) A crossed eyed munter and a overweight bint with a limp are my guess

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

Helen is an actual HM though Kazanne. So what if she won Miss Derry, that doesn't say a single thing about her mother, funny how she's "only" 18 when it suits the argument eh?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I would LOVE to see who she up against in "Miss Derry "(hardly miss Universe is it ?) A crossed eyed munter and a overweight bint with a limp are my guess

wow how nasty Chuff

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That's fair enough Niamh,well it would be if the playing field was level,people have come on here talking about Helen as a mother,oh and her 'poor son',saying horrible things far worse than I've just said,and nothing is said,Ashleigh is supposed to have won Miss Derry isn't she? so I'de wager her mother had a hand in that,afterall Ashleigh is only '18' so couldn't have thought of that all by herself.

..a very few posters may have mentioned Helen's parenting skills and that's just as wrong I agree, I think most people would agree that was right or necessary because those are all assumptions as well ...her mum/parents may have supported her in whatever she's wanted in life...don't most parents do that but that's not in any way being pushy or something either Ashleigh or her mum should have criticism laid at them for....

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Helen is an actual HM though Kazanne. So what if she won Miss Derry, that doesn't say a single thing about her mother, funny how she's "only" 18 when it suits the argument eh?

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

No, it is a relevant issue when her fellow housemates are older and doing exactly the same as her, the only thing is, she does it better.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

Fine use it all you want but It's unfair to use it against her mother, who's not a HM and should not be accused of being "pushy" or a bad mother when you really don't have a clue what kind of a mother or person she is.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

It is a viable reason, she has been up against very much older housemates and done very well.

If she was in their age group, it would be fairer but as a test for Ashleigh's strength of character, she has played a very good strategic game.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I may aswell use the 18 card as everyone else seems to think its an excuse for her being a sulky miserable mare,imo.

..actually the first person to mention her age was Helen who used it as an excuse to feel as though she should be treated differently and not subjected to her venom...and the only reason it's used on the forum is because of the childish behaviour we have seen so often in the house and the contrast to a lot of Ashleigh's behaviour...I'm always right, always right, always right, always right..etc....

[Nell_McCoy]

Ashleigh actually ORGANISED the Miss Derry contest the year after she won and ran classes for young women to raise their self esteem. I am sure she has had her Mum's support but if there's any pushing to be done its probably not Mary whose doing it. ASHLEIGH FTW