[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He's silly for saying it but he doesn't mean anything nasty from it tbh. He's a nice guy deep down.

Originally Posted by Withano

I kind of wish I could excuse someone's behaviour that easily because he's naturally very funny, he is however also ver cruel too and he's said himself in the diary room that his behaviour is on purpose because it's his only source of entertainment..

For lack of a better word, a person who uses cruel behaviour for their own entertainment is a bully.

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He takes pride from saying nasty things to people and trying to exert his 'dominance' over people, he comes across as though he could be quite intimidating and he's obviously quite aggressive, the way he speaks to people and the things he says are awful

[Liam-]

But saying that, the things he says/does are awful, but I personally didn't see him as a bully until last night.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

My own view on bullying is not that the word gets thrown around too much but that people get too hysterical over it. Some forms are mild and tend to be little more than a guy trying to assert his authority or superiority over others. That is what Marc is all about. But people like that can soon get vicious when they don't get what they want.

...yep, insult, insult, insult and offend, offend, offend until you see the reaction you want and then 'make up' because you didn't mean it of course...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

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He takes pride from saying nasty things to people and trying to exert his 'dominance' over people, he comes across as though he could be quite intimidating and he's obviously quite aggressive, the way he speaks to people and the things he says are awful

...I think also it depends on who it is as well...people like Danny or Christian he's not so bad with because their 'lads'/his kind of people...but someone like Joel speaking back to him...no, no, no...not 'aving it...who is this little Joel chap, who the heck does he think he is...

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

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He takes pride from saying nasty things to people and trying to exert his 'dominance' over people, he comes across as though he could be quite intimidating and he's obviously quite aggressive, the way he speaks to people and the things he says are awful

He's not even trying to be nasty tho. He isn't even a nasty person. He's a nice guy deep down who acts like a bellend with his banter. He's just a misunderstood guy. I mean bully? He isn't helen,pauline,alexandra,dennis and other vile cretins.

[Niamh.]

Yeah I don't see him as a bully at all. Vulgar yes, inappropriate yes, annoying to live with probably but he's not really picking on people I don't think. What is interesting is how quickly the issue himself and Jade had fizzled out. I do think she probably "gets him" a bit more than the others

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He's not even trying to be nasty tho. He isn't even a nasty person. He's a nice guy deep down who acts like a bellend with his banter. He's just a misunderstood guy. I mean bully? He isn't helen,pauline,alexandra,dennis and other vile cretins.

To be honest, I think he's closer than you realise he is

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I think also it depends on who it is as well...people like Danny or Christian he's not so bad with because their 'lads'/his kind of people...but someone like Joel speaking back to him...no, no, no...not 'aving it...who is this little Joel chap, who the heck does he think he is...

Exactly, he seems to be the most vicious with the people who don't immediately bow down to him

Originally Posted by LukeB

He's not even trying to be nasty tho. He isn't even a nasty person. He's a nice guy deep down who acts like a bellend with his banter. He's just a misunderstood guy. I mean bully? He isn't helen,pauline,alexandra,dennis and other vile cretins.

So, saying nasty things to people, for the lols, isn't being nasty? okay.
There are many kinds of bully, not just outwardly aggressive ones who intimidate people, there's such thing as verbal bullying,

'Verbal bullying occurs when someone uses language to gain power over his or her peers. The verbal bully makes use of relentless insults and teasing to bully his or her peers. For instance, a verbal bully may make fun of a peer's lack of physical capabilities, may tease a peer for being a "dummie" or "nerd", and/or may call a peer names based on appearance'

That paragraph above depicts Marc to a tee imo and not to mention telling Sam that seeing her cry turned him on, like seriously, that's beyond creepy and sick, he's vile.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I don't see him as a bully at all. Vulgar yes, inappropriate yes, annoying to live with probably but he's not really picking on people I don't think. What is interesting is how quickly the issue himself and Jade had fizzled out. I do think she probably "gets him" a bit more than the others

Was jade ever on that Irish towie-like programme with him or do they know each other from their personal lives, do ya know?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I don't see him as a bully at all. Vulgar yes, inappropriate yes, annoying to live with probably but he's not really picking on people I don't think. What is interesting is how quickly the issue himself and Jade had fizzled out. I do think she probably "gets him" a bit more than the others

I was shocked to see him and jade getting along tbh both having fun and i thought she didn't like him. But tbh i think the house loves him(except harry) but don't like his language like joel he praised marc in the diary room.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Was jade ever on that Irish towie-like programme with him or do they know each other from their personal lives, do ya know?

No she wasn't in that, from what I can gather she just knows him from around the "social circuit" of Dublin and it sounded like her ex knew him better and he didn't like him so it could be that she just had an idea that she didn't like him because of what her ex would tell her? That's just my speculation but it sounds like that, she said she only ever met him twice

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I don't see him as a bully at all. Vulgar yes, inappropriate yes, annoying to live with probably but he's not really picking on people I don't think. What is interesting is how quickly the issue himself and Jade had fizzled out. I do think she probably "gets him" a bit more than the others

..or maybe because they had their talk in the bedroom that time, he saw that he had 'won her over', she liked him so she's of no interest to him anymore...

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Exactly, he seems to be the most vicious with the people who don't immediately bow down to him



So, saying nasty things to people, for the lols, isn't being nasty? okay.
There are many kinds of bully, not just outwardly aggressive ones who intimidate people, there's such thing as verbal bullying,

'Verbal bullying occurs when someone uses language to gain power over his or her peers. The verbal bully makes use of relentless insults and teasing to bully his or her peers. For instance, a verbal bully may make fun of a peer's lack of physical capabilities, may tease a peer for being a "dummie" or "nerd", and/or may call a peer names based on appearance'

That paragraph above depicts Marc to a tee imo and not to mention telling Sam that seeing her cry turned him on, like seriously, that's beyond creepy and sick, he's vile.

I completely agree, the word 'bully' has become almost taboo on forums for some reason but I don't really know why, bullies aren't that uncommon.

If I saw a child use the exact same behaviour in a playground, I would use the same word to define their behaviour. Just because he's an adult and he should know better, it doesn't change anything really. To me anyway.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Exactly, he seems to be the most vicious with the people who don't immediately bow down to him



So, saying nasty things to people, for the lols, isn't being nasty? okay.
There are many kinds of bully, not just outwardly aggressive ones who intimidate people, there's such thing as verbal bullying,

'Verbal bullying occurs when someone uses language to gain power over his or her peers. The verbal bully makes use of relentless insults and teasing to bully his or her peers. For instance, a verbal bully may make fun of a peer's lack of physical capabilities, may tease a peer for being a "dummie" or "nerd", and/or may call a peer names based on appearance'

That paragraph above depicts Marc to a tee imo and not to mention telling Sam that seeing her cry turned him on, like seriously, that's beyond creepy and sick, he's vile.

He wasn't being nasty tho just has a foul mouth who likes to banter. He hasn't got a problem with anyone or dislike anyone. He likes Sam the most out of the house. He's clearly not a bully. Just another excuse to hate the guy.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He's not even trying to be nasty tho. He isn't even a nasty person. He's a nice guy deep down who acts like a bellend with his banter. He's just a misunderstood guy. I mean bully? He isn't helen,pauline,alexandra,dennis and other vile cretins.

..I'm still not sure about the bully word but maybe...bullies do because they can, they get the reaction they want and it's irrelevant what anyone is 'deep down' or how 'misunderstood' they are ..that doesn't have any bearing over their actions at all...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He wasn't being nasty tho just has a foul mouth who likes to banter. He hasn't got a problem with anyone or dislike anyone. He likes Sam the most out of the house. He's clearly not a bully. Just another excuse to hate the guy.

..so I could call you this, this, and this and some fairly unpleasant stuff and make you cry but it would be ok because all I'm intending is the 'bantz'...and actually I'm really nice and misunderstood...

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

He wasn't being nasty tho just has a foul mouth who likes to banter. He hasn't got a problem with anyone or dislike anyone. He likes Sam the most out of the house. He's clearly not a bully. Just another excuse to hate the guy.

It's not 'just another excuse to hate the guy' at all, he's vile, the things he says, especially to women are beyond revolting, it goes way past someone with a 'foul mouth' a foul mouth i can accept and i can enjoy, but for someone to be so outwardly misogynistic and disrespectful, a nice person does not make.

That splashing act last night was also a blatant display of bully boy tactics if I've ever seen one, it was so uncomfortable to watch.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Withano

I completely agree, the word 'bully' has become almost taboo on forums for some reason but I don't really know why, bullies aren't that uncommon.

If I saw a child use the exact same behaviour in a playground, I would use the same word to define their behaviour. Just because he's an adult and he should know better, it doesn't change anything really. To me anyway.

Exactly, if a spade is behaving like a spade, call it a god damn spade, not a misunderstood pickax.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..so I could call you this, this, and this and some fairly unpleasant stuff and make you cry but it would be ok because all I'm intending is the 'bantz'...and actually I'm really nice and misunderstood...

But he loves sam the most in the house and i don't understand how he tried to put her down. He deffo should have said something else to cheer her up but i guess he says that back at home. Marc/Sam Have some friendship/showmance going on

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Exactly, if a spade is behaving like a spade, call it a god damn spade, not a misunderstood pickax.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

That splashing act last night was also a blatant display of bully boy tactics if I've ever seen one, it was so uncomfortable to watch.

Yeah splashing people is so offensive...
He was being annoying not nasty

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LukeB

But he loves sam the most in the house and i don't understand how he tried to put her down. He deffo should have said something else to cheer her up but i guess he says that back at home. Marc/Sam Have some friendship/showmance going on

..I think that the only friendship they have is that she's the one who adores him most ..and that's how he treats her loyalty and adoration..?...he wants to show dominance and see her cry...

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yeah splashing people is so offensive...
He was being annoying not nasty

It was the way in which he was doing it, you're right, splashing people is not offensive, but add in the taunting and the proceeding to splash until Joel got up and left, which was then followed by more taunting and laughing directed squarely at Joel, then it becomes a different issue all together.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by LukeB

Yeah splashing people is so offensive...
He was being annoying not nasty

And what do we call a fully grown man who purposely annoys a group of people who are already upset with him?

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think that the only friendship they have is that she's the one who adores him most ..and that's how he treats her loyalty and adoration..?...he wants to show dominance and see her cry...

The more I think about it, the more he turns my stomach. I don't know what to name his behaviour, it's really not okay though.