[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

It'd be fitting since she morphed into Christine, but yeah it's never happening bc she and James are so ****ing protected by the edit.

There's nothing to edit her poorly with tho

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

There's nothing to edit her poorly with tho

Didn't Christine only get booed for the Cody thing and not her gameplay?

I don't like Nicole but she hasn't done nothing wrong to be booed she is a rat/snake but that's big brother and not offensive to anyone, Nicole bitches etc but still not offensive and pretty much everyone does that lmao. Nicole isn't evil in any way.

[Peppermint]

Originally Posted by JerseyWins

There's nothing to edit her poorly with tho

Exactly. She has done nothing 'bad' that warrants any hate really. If she wanted all the males out she'd be loved. It's ridiculous how unfairly guys get judged on this show.

Like if the guys want girls out they're 'sexist' but if girls want guys out they're 'legends'

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Exactly. She has done nothing 'bad' that warrants any hate really. If she wanted all the males out she'd be loved. It's ridiculous how unfairly guys get judged on this show.

Like if the guys want girls out they're 'sexist' but if girls want guys out they're 'legends'

gender politics kinda matter on a show like this when it's been a decade since a woman won without the help of production. Only two women have won since Grodner took over and they only won bc she tried to rig for a golden boy, it didn't work, so then one of the closest females was beneficiary.

[Peppermint]

Originally Posted by Macie Lightfoot

gender politics kinda matter on a show like this when it's been a decade since a woman won without the help of production. Only two women have won since Grodner took over and they only won bc she tried to rig for a golden boy, it didn't work, so then one of the closest females was beneficiary.

Maybe the guys who have won have just had better gameplay?

I just can't understand the mentality of wanting girls to stick together and take all the guys out but being against it the other way around and thinking it's okay. I get that it's the viewers' preference widely but it doesn't make them 'bad people' for it or whatever I see them getting accused of if they team up against the girls.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Maybe the guys who have won have just had better gameplay?

I just can't understand the mentality of wanting girls to stick together and take all the guys out but being against it the other way around and thinking it's okay. I get that it's the viewers' preference widely but it doesn't make them 'bad people' for it or whatever I see them getting accused of if they team up against the girls.

I agree, it doesn't make them bad people at all.. I would do the same only if It helps me not because i'm being horrible.. but I don't view females and males differently they both human and no different to one another so I will treat all sexes the same and treat them as people not over their gender.

[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Maybe the guys who have won have just had better gameplay?

I just can't understand the mentality of wanting girls to stick together and take all the guys out but being against it the other way around and thinking it's okay. I get that it's the viewers' preference widely but it doesn't make them 'bad people' for it or whatever I see them getting accused of if they team up against the girls.

Well whenever a group of girls gets any leverage by their own doing, Grodner steps in and intervenes. That's how we ended up with the Coup d'Etat in BB11 and Pandora's Box in BB13.

Part of the reason such a mentality exists is that we've seen a group of guys bro down and steamroll through the season numerous times, and it usually results in the worst seasons like BB12 and BB16. Part of the reason is that Grodner and Kass seem to almost exclusively cast codependent women in order to guarantee that they're a number for the men. Part of the reason is that the production ideal is a bunch of dudes in the endgame with maybe one female, as evidenced by BB12 and BB16 being held in high regard by production and being two of the most common seasons given in sequester to new HGs before the show. Part of the reason is that Survivor, a fundamentally similar show, has a near 50% statistic of women winning while Big Brother doesn't even have a 30% statistic.

I don't think anyone actually thinks Nicole is an evil person, but she is an incredibly frustrating one. She perpetuates the show's worst tropes about gender and is more concerned about being the last girl standing than anything else. She presents herself as wholesome by censoring herself from saying words like crap and damn, yet she lets Corey defile her on the live feeds. The edit tries to present her as the goofy, lovable girl next door, but on the live feeds she's proven herself to be whiny, needy, critical of other females like clockwork, and frustratingly delusional. Basically, the TV show goes out of its way to present Nicole as how she wants us to see her, but anyone who has seen the live feeds sees that she isn't anything like that at all.

[Jack_]

Originally Posted by caprimint

Exactly. She has done nothing 'bad' that warrants any hate really. If she wanted all the males out she'd be loved. It's ridiculous how unfairly guys get judged on this show.

Like if the guys want girls out they're 'sexist' but if girls want guys out they're 'legends'

I actually agree with this and one of the most annoying things about this forum is its blind support of women just for the sake of it under the guise of some kind of faux feminism, but that isn't actually the reason I dislike Nicole. She's whiny as hell (I actually think she's like the male Cody), her showmance is nauseating and any of the mildly endearing aspects of her personality there may have been in BB16 have completely evaporated this season.

All that being said, she doesn't deserve to be booed. One of my favourite things about North American BB's are the warm reception 99% of the houseguests receive upon their exit, and if they're booed you know (most of the time) they've been a real ****. It's a much nicer atmosphere than BBUK with its incessant booing and nasty chanting