[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The thing is though, domestic abuse and assault are a completely different thing to economic or legislative oppression. The latter can be addressed politically and so requires one type of campaigning... The others are already illegal, so what legislative change can actually be made to address the issue? Abusers know they are breaking the law... and continue to abuse... So what political or legislative change can actually address that problem? What is being campaigned for?

Oh I’m sure women could come up with some ideas on how to campaign against this everyday oppression from ordinary men such as better education for boys and less tolerance of these attitudes in general, tbh this site would sometimes be a good example of some of the examples I gave, but they have been there before and Little changes. As another poster said sexism is too ingrained - and often ignored and treated as less important than other isms - all this self-identified crap being a good example of that.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh I’m sure women could come up with some ideas on how to campaign against this everyday oppression from ordinary men such as better education for boys and less tolerance of these attitudes in general, tbh this site would sometimes be a good example of some of the examples I gave, but they have been there before and Little changes. As another poster said sexism is too ingrained - and often ignored and treated as less important than other isms - all this self-identified crap being a good example of that.

But "better education" is an idea that's been floating around for a while, e.g. Mandatory lectures for males at University to teach them that sexual assault is wrong. This is based on the frankly insane premise that abusers are abusive because they aren't aware that what they're doing is wrong or immoral. In almost all cases, they are aware. Telling them "that it's wrong" isn't going to stop them, because they don't care. The fact that there are people in the world who are violent, manipulative and abusive is awful... It's unfair, and it's wrong but those people will always exist. It's unhelpful and unhealthy for the majority of people - who would never dream of being violent or abusive - to be tarred with a wide brush... Especially when doing so doesn't actually do anything to improve the situation.