[Jessica.]

So according to people in this thread trans women are only men when they're trying to get on with their lives, have rights, go to the bathroom, seek support, but if they act out by being violent or committing a sex crime then they ARE trans women because it further your agenda?

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

So according to people in this thread trans women are only men when they're trying to get on with their lives, have rights, go to the bathroom, seek support, but if they act out by being violent or committing a sex crime then they ARE trans women because it further your agenda?

Transwomen are transwomen, whatever they're doing.

[Good King Glennceslas]

You can’t pick and choose when transgender people exist I’m afraid

[Yuki Maru Hoshi]

I like how citing statistics now comes to mean many members of the thread should now commit seppuku to restore order. See, this is why we can't have nice things.

It's a joke, y'all, please don't do anything drastic... nothing additional, anyway

[Zizu]

Interesting ??




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[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Interesting ??




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Sexual inversion is essentially what we would now describe as a form of transgenderism or being non-binary to a certain extent. It was used to describe those who outwardly presented as the gender they were assigned at birth but inside identified as the opposite gender. So think of it now as someone who identifies as trans but is yet to act upon it.

The issue with it back then was that is was used to explain same-sex attraction, effectively wiping out homosexuality.

Homosexuality was illegal, and so they ascribed gay men and lesbians as sexual inverts, effectively calling them heterosexuals because they basically said gay men were actually internally/mentally women and therefore were straight.

One issue we want to avoid nowadays is ensuring an effeminate gay teen isn't labelled trans when actually he's just a camp gay kid and the term sexual inverts was basically doing that as a blanket statement.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Sexual inversion is essentially what we would now describe as a form of transgenderism or being non-binary to a certain extent. It was used to describe those who outwardly presented as the gender they were assigned at birth but inside identified as the opposite gender. So think of it now as someone who identifies as trans but is yet to act upon it.

The issue with it back then was that is was used to explain same-sex attraction, effectively wiping out homosexuality.

Homosexuality was illegal, and so they ascribed gay men and lesbians as sexual inverts, effectively calling them heterosexuals because they basically said gay men were actually internally/mentally women and therefore were straight.

One issue we want to avoid nowadays is ensuring an effeminate gay teen isn't labelled trans when actually he's just a camp gay kid and the term sexual inverts was basically doing that as a blanket statement.

I looked it up as I heard the term ‘invert’ used in a tv series the other night


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[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Zizu

I looked it up as I heard the term ‘invert’ used in a tv series the other night


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What did you find interesting about it?

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Facebook group for breastfeeding women, with over 57,000 members, has banned ‘gendered language’.

Posts that begin “hey ladies” or “hey mamas” will be immediately deleted.

This is the continued erasure of the concept of womanhood and motherhood.

[Livia]

I wonder how many members they have now? Apart from the mentally ill and their ridiculous supporters.

[Oliver_W]

However they identify, they're still ladies and mothers

[Zizu]

Utter nonsense


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[Cherry Christmas]

Er, think they are tying themselves up in knots here to be edgy, but its a breast feeding forum, so I am guessing any transwomen on the forum would want to be referred to as a lady or a mama, am I wrong? so they are being TRANSPHOBIC

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Er, think they are tying themselves up in knots here to be edgy, but its a breast feeding forum, so I am guessing any transwomen on the forum would want to be referred to as a lady or a mama, am I wrong? so they are being TRANSPHOBIC

I would imagine it's for the benefit of transmen rather than transwomen as transmen are the only ones able to breast feed babies. There's no reason for transwomen to be in breast feeding groups surely?

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Utter nonsense


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I agree. Not sure why they are banning the use of mother/mama/ladies in a breast feeding group. Seems very OTT.

[Livia]

Maybe they think there might be trans men who've given birth, identify as men despite the fact they've produced a child in their womb, and breastfeed. I mean, wtaf?

[Livia]

Transwomen do "breastfeed", it's not milk they produce though, it's some kind of drug-induced secretion, laced with whatever narcotics they're taking in order to "lactate". It's child abuse. It's play acting, fantasy...

[The Human Santapede]

I do have a question for the ladies though (slightly off topic) out of curiosity.

If there was a group of you (mixed gender) and I came in and said ‘Hi guys’ to address the group, would that bother you?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I do have a question for the ladies though (slightly off topic) out of curiosity.

If there was a group of you (mixed gender) and I came in and said ‘Hi guys’ to address the group, would that bother you?

Nope and its often been said in a mixed group

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Nope and its often been said in a mixed group

Oh good, as I sometimes say it.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I do have a question for the ladies though (slightly off topic) out of curiosity.

If there was a group of you (mixed gender) and I came in and said ‘Hi guys’ to address the group, would that bother you?

Nah, or lads which is said here more than guys I would say although I did laugh at this meme I saw one time where a woman replies to a (straight)man telling her guys is gender neutral "Oh, right, how many guys have you slept with?"

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I do have a question for the ladies though (slightly off topic) out of curiosity.

If there was a group of you (mixed gender) and I came in and said ‘Hi guys’ to address the group, would that bother you?

…the term wouldn’t really register with me…but though, I have used it myself and it’s been noted that ‘hey all/hey folk’ would be more appropriate, so that’s fine…I’ve used that instead…I’ve also said hey girlies when there have been males present also…

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…the term wouldn’t really register with me…but though, I have used it myself and it’s been noted that ‘hey all/hey folk’ would be more appropriate, so that’s fine…I’ve used that instead…I’ve also said hey girlies when there have been males present also…

We will have none of that nonsense in the breastfeeding group,we are all inclusive so lets exclude most of you instead

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

I do have a question for the ladies though (slightly off topic) out of curiosity.

If there was a group of you (mixed gender) and I came in and said ‘Hi guys’ to address the group, would that bother you?

Not at all. Also, I've chaired meetings and been called madam chairman and it did not ruin my life.

[The Human Santapede]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not at all. Also, I've chaired meetings and been called madam chairman and it did not ruin my life.

They called you madam and you let it slide!?