[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Apparently Katie tweeted it herself

Yes, apparently. Funnily enough though, the only people who ever saw this tweet were Hazel/Daley fans, and they cant produce said tweet now..yet still go on about it

[anne666]

They BOTH have low moral standards and unfortunately for them some viewers and HM's don't. This is nothing to do with love. Its £1 signs for her, nothing more. IMO He seems too dim to ever be able to think with anything other than his penis, so lust for him. More seedy than the usual showmances on there that's all.

[Josy]

There was one post I actually saw about that over at bbspy and it wasn't Katie herself that posted it, but the admin from there removed a lot of posts for being rumours about hm's personal lives.

Why would anyone tweet that they used to be their partners mistress though?

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by anne666

They BOTH have low moral standards and unfortunately for them some viewers and HM's don't. This is nothing to do with love. Its £1 signs for her, nothing more. IMO He seems too dim to ever be able to think with anything other than his penis, so lust for him. More seedy than the usual showmances on there that's all.

Sad but true

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point

It's probably the sleep deprivation but this just made me .

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Josy

There was one post I actually saw about that over at bbspy and it wasn't Katie herself that posted it, but the admin from there removed a lot of posts for being rumours about hm's personal lives.

Why would anyone tweet that they used to be their partners mistress though?

I saw the BB spy posts. They were not from her, but three or four different ?? women. All seemingly? with a grudge to bear. I complained about it as the statements were libelous and pretty vile.They should never have been allowed in the first place. But such is the internet.This is the mildest of the things he was accused of. Not to be believed of course ! Who knows?

[Josy]

Originally Posted by anne666

I saw the BB spy posts. They were not from her, but three or four different ?? women. All seemingly? with a grudge to bear. I complained about it as the statements were libelous and pretty vile.They should never have been allowed in the first place. But such is the internet.This is the mildest of the things he was accused of. Not to be believed of course ! Who knows?

Yes there was a few things posted, one of them has proven to be a lie already.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Josy

Yes there was a few things posted, one of them has proven to be a lie already.

Yes it is all supposition and I am more concerned with the behaviour in the show, which is all we know.

[Razor]

Hazel is going all this just for a showmance to get some magazine deals and work for when she leaves the BB house.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well he hasn't actually cheated on her but ok

With respect Niamh, I dont agree with this at all.

If Gavin had been acting like Daley is with another woman, I would definitely consider it cheating. There is more to cheating than sleeping with someone IMO.

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think it really matters if Katie "stole" Daley from his ex & how can she steal him anyway?? Daley was obviously more than willing!

What is happeneing now inside the house is still wrong & Hazel & Daley are both equally as bad as each other. Daley has a girlfriend & Hazel knows he has a girlfriend!

I still feel bad for Katie.

[YodaBB]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

You go on about, 'what/who to believe' for point one & Ignore that theory for the other points. There is zero proof that Katy cheated with Daley, except one twitter user.Daley also mentioned in the first 2 weeks & still has AFTER he said she wasn't a girlfriend, that Katy is his girlfriend. Therefore you're first, second, third, fourth & seventh points are all invalid

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

With respect Niamh, I dont agree with this at all.

If Gavin had been acting like Daley is with another woman, I would definitely consider it cheating. There is more to cheating than sleeping with someone IMO.

He's crossing a line for sure and I wouldn't be happy about it either if It was my Gav in there but I don't think it's cheating...................yet

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

He's crossing a line for sure and I wouldn't be happy about it either if It was my Gav in there but I don't think it's cheating...................yet

Do you both have partners called Gav? What else do you two have in common?

Like I said this is far too complicated for anyone to act like they can be judge and jury. Katy tears on BOTS last night took this to a new level. She seems genuinely hurt so the who's at fault argument is somewhat of a moot one.

[YodaBB]

Originally Posted by sampvt

As smeagol pointed out, well done smeagol, SHE SAID she stole Daley from his ex...on her twitter page. case closed.

No she didn't....

[Beso]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

Your last paragraph,how the he'll can you say "the truth" in your thread title..how do you expect to be taken seriously

[YodaBB]

Daley has stated that Katy & he were together in the house for the duration except once when he was practically cheating. Katy has also said they're together, that is the truth.. They've both said it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Do you both have partners called Gav? What else do you two have in common?

Like I said this is far too complicated for anyone to act like they can be judge and jury. Katy tears on BOTS last night took this to a new level. She seems genuinely hurt so the who's at fault argument is somewhat of a moot one.

Yeah we do

Well, it should be primarily Daley at fault as he's the one who owed her something and is in a relationship with her, Hazel never even met her (again not excusing her behaviour just pointing that out) but you would think poor Daley is just an innocent who's being corrupted by the evil woman. Like for example If I were in there and some guy was all over me like that, he'd know when to back off because I would make sure he did. If Daley really wanted Hazel to back off, he could properly let her know, at the moment it's very no means yes....... Telling someone you don't want them to hug you because they're making you aroused is not really telling them to back off, is it?

[Johnnyuk123]

I can only believe what Daley has said himself on live tv. He made it crystal clear at the very start that he has a girlfriend and ALL the girls in the house knew about this, now he's moving the goal posts the dirty snake.

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Everyone is riding the morality bus on Daley and Hazel after his poor GF was on BBBOTS last night. Herer are some sobering facts.

1. Daley said he wasn't sure if he was in a relationship Katie said they were. Who knows who's telling the truth.

2, Hazel is using her womanly assets to get what she wants because history tells us that she is that kind of girl and her actions will gain her notoriety in the press, is that what she is after.

3. Daley cheated on his last GF that he had a kid with so we are told he is a bad boy and she Katy is better off without him.

4. Has anyone considered the fact that Katy was the woman that stole Daley from his ex and his son. Doesn't that make her worse than Hazel. Is this a case of a woman scorned and when the shoe is on the other foot, she isn't happy.

5. Where Katy's tears real last night and will we see her in the tabloids in the next few days milking it and earning big bucks, who knows.

6. Was BB wrong to do a Jeremy Kyle style interview just to boost the ratings. That was pretty tacky of them and inadvertently will seal someones fate before the real facts are known.

7. If Daley did split with his GF before the start of the show because he was having doubts about their relationship and he promised to talk after he came out....would he be doing the wrong thing now and should he be slated for it in the face of Hazels relentless pursuit.

Too many imponderables for me to decide but something is not right here and we should not be allowed to stand in Judgement before all the facts are out there.

You seem to have forgotten 1 truth, which is,that Daley did what he did because HE wanted to. Despite what people seem to think, us men ARE in control of our actions, that is of course, until we choose not to be.

I've yet to read the same amount of venom aimed at Daley for his cheating on his last g/f as there is towards Hazel for liking/fancying him because, as usual, most people just want to hold a woman responsible for men's actions.

If he didn't like the attention/respect his g/f he could/would do something about this, but he hasn't. People should wake up and realise men CHOOSE to do what we do, women DO NOT force us.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah we do

Well, it should be primarily Daley at fault as he's the one who owed her something and is in a relationship with her, Hazel never even met her (again not excusing her behaviour just pointing that out) but you would think poor Daley is just an innocent who's being corrupted by the evil woman. Like for example If I were in there and some guy was all over me like that, he'd know when to back off because I would make sure he did. If Daley really wanted Hazel to back off, he could properly let her know, at the moment it's very no means yes....... Telling someone you don't want them to hug you because they're making you aroused is not really telling them to back off, is it?

So if Simon Baker was in the house with you asking for hugs you'd be telling him to back off eh?

I agree that Daley needs to do more but I just cant like what Hazel is doing. Daley has said no on a number of occasions and whether its a man or woman no should mean no; in my mind there is no such thing no means yes.

Also, knowing that hugging someone is making them aroused but still insisting and not taking no for an answer is quite close to harassment. Hazel can do without the occasional hug but she still insists knowing what she's doing to the man. Now its getting more complicated cuz some will argue that she can do what she wants etc and they are right. I'm a believer in behaviour modification. If something is causing a problem then you have to stop doing it. Hazel knows what she's doing Daley could be a bit more assertive and he has a gf; all in all its a complicated situation that turning into compelling viewing.

[Marsh.]

Niamh and Vicky share a guy called Gav?

Where do I find these 2 for 1 offers, do you advertise?

[Speedster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I agree completely. There was people saying here that katy was his mistress before his g/f and if that's the case I think she has a ****ing nerve acting the way she did when she was Hazel at one point

If she WAS his mistress wtf does that say about HIM???? Get this bastard out.

[anne666]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah we do

Well, it should be primarily Daley at fault as he's the one who owed her something and is in a relationship with her, Hazel never even met her (again not excusing her behaviour just pointing that out) but you would think poor Daley is just an innocent who's being corrupted by the evil woman. Like for example If I were in there and some guy was all over me like that, he'd know when to back off because I would make sure he did. If Daley really wanted Hazel to back off, he could properly let her know, at the moment it's very no means yes....... Telling someone you don't want them to hug you because they're making you aroused is not really telling them to back off, is it?

Exactly. If that was my partner behaving like that I would be over the wall with a good strong scalpel. That would sort out his erection problems

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

So if Simon Baker was in the house with you asking for hugs you'd be telling him to back off eh?

I agree that Daley needs to do more but I just cant like what Hazel is doing. Daley has said no on a number of occasions and whether its a man or woman no should mean no; in my mind there is no such thing no means yes.

Also, knowing that hugging someone is making them aroused but still insisting and not taking no for an answer is quite close to harassment. Hazel can do without the occasional hug but she still insists knowing what she's doing to the man. Now its getting more complicated cuz some will argue that she can do what she wants etc and they are right. I'm a believer in behaviour modification. If something is causing a problem then you have to stop doing it. Hazel knows what she's doing Daley could be a bit more assertive and he has a gf; all in all its a complicated situation that turning into compelling viewing.

Listen, Simon Baker is great and all that but he's no Gav

I'm not saying I like what hazel is doing, I'm saying that she is much less at fault than Daley. Him telling Hazel that she's making him aroused so stop hugging him, is basically him telling her how attractive he finds her, that is not the way to tell someone you don't want their attention.........