[Vicky.]

Most Churches are never going to accept gay marriage though.

I honestly do not understand why gay people would want to get married somewhere that disapproves of their relationship to begin with. I actually don't know anyone who got married in a church either, probably as I don't know any extremely religious people. A church wasn't even discussed when we were planning our wedding..yes it may be prettier for the photos and that, but thats it. I do not get why anyone who is not religious would use a church for this. Not insinuating that no gay people can be religious there mind...but I would think that...not many are. or not strictly Christian anyway

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

Yeah, I've agreed with every post in the thread so far apart from the one claiming that that homosexuals dont actually want to marry in churches and are mostly just no-gooders causing trouble and challenging the system.
I think most people have a similar stance on this subject. Government shouldn't pressure, each priest and vicar should personally decide, and voices to convince them to do so should be heard.

I'm not sure about Church of England/protestant churches but I know in Catholic Churches that just wouldn't be allowed, they really have to tow the party line, so to speak. I'm pretty sure Catholicism is more strict though

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Withano

As far as the bible is concerned, Jesus had no opinion on it. That guy needs a reread.

The Bible is the word of God, Jesus is God and so whatever is in both books is the word of Jesus

according to CHristianity

[Braden]

If they're going to have this rule for gay/lesbian individuals, they need to apply it to other people such as those with tattoos, meat-eaters, literal non-religious folk etc. All those who are subject to defying the bible.

The gay community are just continuously being used as scapegoats by some people.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Braden

If they're going to have this rule for gay/lesbian individuals, they need to apply it to other people such as those with tattoos, meat-eaters, literal non-religious folk etc. All those who are subject to defying the bible.

The gay community are just continuously being used as scapegoats by some people.

Are tattoos mentioned in the bible?

I didn't realise meateaters were 'sinners' either, surely back in that day meat was the primary food source :S

They do apply the rule for divorced people though as they disagree with divorce also. Some churches will not perform a marriage unless the people are actually religious and attend church also.

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Are tattoos mentioned in the bible?

I didn't realise meateaters were 'sinners' either, surely back in that day meat was the primary food source :S

They do apply the rule for divorced people though as they disagree with divorce also. Some churches will not perform a marriage unless the people are actually religious and attend church also.

Leviticus 19: 28

“You must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves.”

I think I was incorrect with the 'meat-eating' label, but I'm certain it's prohibited to eat pork. I remember one of my classmates coming to school one day and starting a debate about how she didn't think gay people should get married. She said that if gay people wanted to get married then should create their own religion, but the hilarious thing was that very morning she had a bacon and sausage roll for breakfast

I didn't actually know that was the case with divorcees.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Braden

Leviticus 19: 28

“You must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves.”

I think I was incorrect with the 'meat-eating' label, but I'm certain it's prohibited to eat pork. I remember one of my classmates coming to school one day and starting a debate about how she didn't think gay people should get married. She said that if gay people wanted to get married then should create their own religion, but the hilarious thing was that very morning she had a bacon and sausage roll for breakfast

I didn't actually know that was the case with divorcees.

ffs

[Tom4784]

I've always held the belief that if a place of worship makes money from hosting weddings that it should be beholden to discrimination laws like any business would.

Tbh though, I think Church Weddings are dying out and I don't think many people that do have one do it for religious reasons, it's probably more to do with having a nice or traditional backdrop for the pictures.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Bible not only describes homosexual behaviour as detestable, but it also calls for the punishment of those involved (Leviticus 20:13). Their unrepentant attitude caused God to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25). Just as homosexual conduct has been punished in the past, so it will also be punished by God in the future. “…Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

Read more at: http://christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c040.html

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

ffs

Exactly what I was thinking.

I kept quiet though

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Braden

If they're going to have this rule for gay/lesbian individuals, they need to apply it to other people such as those with tattoos, meat-eaters, literal non-religious folk etc. All those who are subject to defying the bible.

The gay community are just continuously being used as scapegoats by some people.

You have to be christened to marry in church

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Braden

Leviticus 19: 28

“You must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves.”

I think I was incorrect with the 'meat-eating' label, but I'm certain it's prohibited to eat pork. I remember one of my classmates coming to school one day and starting a debate about how she didn't think gay people should get married. She said that if gay people wanted to get married then should create their own religion, but the hilarious thing was that very morning she had a bacon and sausage roll for breakfast

I didn't actually know that was the case with divorcees.

Is Pork not another religion? Jewish?

[Denver]

Why would you want to get married

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Why would you want to get married

To stop people constantly asking 'why have you not got married yet' and to please the parents. In my case

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

To stop people constantly asking 'why have you not got married yet' and to please the parents. In my case

Ive seen numerous marriages break down so i will never get married and i am a strong believer that you dont need a ring and piece of paper to prove you love someone

[Braden]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You have to be christened to marry in church

I genuinely didn't know this, but just because someone is christened does not automatically make them religious (imo).

I was christened, but I'm not religious. My Mum and Dad married in a church, yet I wouldn't say they're religious in a way that would make a church wedding acceptable by TCoE's standards.

Originally Posted by Adam.

Is Pork not another religion? Jewish?

I just found this:

(English Standard Version) Deuteronomy 14:8:

"And the pig, because it parts the hoof but does not chew the cud, is unclean for you. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their carcasses you shall not touch.
"

[Kizzy]

A pigs a filthy animal... I don't eat filthy animals.

Can't remember what film that's from

[Denver]

I can not live without a bacon sarnie

[Kizzy]

I once read that the only reason that was included in religious text was the king at the time was sick of the smell of the pigs roaming outside the palace.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Ive seen numerous marriages break down so i will never get married and i am a strong believer that you dont need a ring and piece of paper to prove you love someone

Yes I agree 100% with this. Marriage really is quite an outdated concept.

[Vicky.]

Also why do so many religions hate pigs I didn't realise Christianity was the same...another reason not to be religious as bacon sandwiches are better than any God.

[Braden]

I agree re: marriage being an incredibly overrated concept & bacon being too good to not eat

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

The Bible is the word of God, Jesus is God and so whatever is in both books is the word of Jesus

according to CHristianity

In the New Testament Jesus makes no mention of homosexuality. However, he does say that he "upholds the law of Moses". So that has been taken to mean that he believes in all the Jewish Old Testament stuff he was taught as a child.

In any case, the church should not be pushed into anything unless we're going to push mosques and synagogues into it too.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Also why do so many religions hate pigs I didn't realise Christianity was the same...another reason not to be religious as bacon sandwiches are better than any God.

Unclean animals, innit. There are quite a lot of things I'm not supposed to eat including shellfish... which I hate anyway.

[Livia]

Wow... there are some really hazy Jewish/Christian mix-ups on this thread...