[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by arista

The problem is Vicky
they take the Cash give him
his bag with Hot Food he then finds a seat,
causing others to have a go
at the Manager.


You do not know if he has
caused TROUBLE in there
a week ago,to be fair to that Scottish KFC,


Anyway McD took his cash
got his Hot Food.

He wanted to take away...even if he wanted to sit in though, I still don't see the problem. he was a person..just not as fortunate as everyone else. And he did not seem pissed of drugged up.

I felt so bad for him. Imagine sitting out constantly in the belting down rain, getting a couple of quid for food then being turned away for trying to buy food ffs.

[DemolitionRed]

Arista, do you believe the homeless have a right to eat? Food is the most fundamental necessity for survival so what would happen if all food outlets, including supermarkets, refused to serve the homeless?

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Arista, do you believe the homeless have a right to eat? Food is the most fundamental necessity for survival so what would happen if all food outlets, including supermarkets, refused to serve the homeless?

Yes in the army sheds
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=294081

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes in the army sheds
http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/foru...d.php?t=294081

You can post that as many times as you like but I'm not going to read that ridiculous suggestion again. Whilst you may think you have the answer, I can assure you, you don't.

[arista]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

You can post that as many times as you like but I'm not going to read that ridiculous suggestion again. Whilst you may think you have the answer, I can assure you, you don't.

OK DR
that thread not for you again.

[Amy Jade]

Arista you really disgust me sometimes. Not all homeless people smell and take drugs. There used to be a homeless man in chester who sat with his dog and my mum regularly bought him a drink from Mcdonald and we spoke to him a lot and didn't smell badly at all, he had split from his wife and lost money gambling.

I'm glad this girl spoke up, people treat the homeless like it's catching sometimes and frankly I'd rather sit and enjoy a hot chocolate with this homeless man than with a snobby indevidual who looks down on the less fortunate.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

Arista you really disgust me sometimes. Not all homeless people smell and take drugs. There used to be a homeless man in chester who sat with his dog and my mum regularly bought him a drink from Mcdonald and we spoke to him a lot and didn't smell badly at all, he had split from his wife and lost money gambling.

I'm glad this girl spoke up, people treat the homeless like it's catching sometimes and frankly I'd rather sit and enjoy a hot chocolate with this homeless man than with a snobby indevidual who looks down on the less fortunate.

High fives Amy Jade.

[arista]

Of course Amy
not all stink.


But many do

[Northern Monkey]

Hobophobia is the new oppression

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Hobophobia is the new oppression

[thesheriff443]

If people on here care that much, take a tramp home to live with You.
I have a good heart and I feel for genuine cases but I have not got time for those that wont help themselves.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If people on here care that much, take a tramp home to live with You.
I have a good heart and I feel for genuine cases but I have not got time for those that wont help themselves.

Bit of a strange train of thought there, 'if you aren't willing to take a random stranger home then you can't complain about them being treated like they are less than human.'

I think it's also a very callous thing to say 'I have not got time for those that wont help themselves' in regards to homeless people being denied service for no other reason than they are homeless. Pray tell, how are homeless people like the one in the article meant to help themselves when people aren't willing to give them a chance.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Bit of a strange train of thought there, 'if you aren't willing to take a random stranger home then you can't complain about them being treated like they are less than human.'

I think it's also a very callous thing to say 'I have not got time for those that wont help themselves' in regards to homeless people being denied service for no other reason than they are homeless. Pray tell, how are homeless people like the one in the article meant to help themselves when people aren't willing to give them a chance.

There are violent drunks, sex offenders and heroin addicts that are home less who put the money in their arm instead of paying the rent.
Like I said I got a good heart but I'm nobody's fool,just because someone is home less it does not make them a good person.
I'm all for treating those that have a bad life with dignity but some live like animals.
I have not made any one homeless,people just down the road pay a hundred pound for a bowl of soup, do they think about the people starving when they eat it, no they don't.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

There are violent drunks, sex offenders and heroin addicts that are home less who put the money in their arm instead of paying the rent.
Like I said I got a good heart but I'm nobody's fool,just because someone is home less it does not make them a good person.
I'm all for treating those that have a bad life with dignity but some live like animals.
I have not made any one homeless,people just down the road pay a hundred pound for a bowl of soup, do they think about the people starving when they eat it, no they don't.

And none of this has any relevance to the topic at hand.

The man in question by all accounts is none of the things you have listed yet you seem fine with denying him the chance to buy food because of something you've accused 'some homeless people' of apparently doing and you seem fine to generalise and tar all homeless people with the same brush and at the same time try to invalidate anyone that treats the homeless with kindness by setting implausible standards for them.

It just seems like you want a target to spew bile at, in all honesty.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

And none of this has any relevance to the topic at hand.

The man in question by all accounts is none of the things you have listed yet you seem fine with denying him the chance to buy food because of something you've accused 'some homeless people' of apparently doing and you seem fine to generalise and tar all homeless people with the same brush and at the same time try to invalidate anyone that treats the homeless with kindness by setting implausible standards for them.

It just seems like you want a target to spew bile at, in all honesty.

You are looking for something that ain't there, the man in question should of been allowed to eat in if he wanted but not places are the same and I don't make the rules.
If people want to give to the homeless I don't have a problem with that, don't accuse me of spewing bile which I consider an insult, I take a harder line with the homeless not all of the homeless just the ones that lay in there own piss and sick.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

If people on here care that much, take a tramp home to live with You.
I have a good heart and I feel for genuine cases but I have not got time for those that wont help themselves.

I did that once, when younger and before I had kids actually. She was very young..maybe about 17 ish. Dirty, freezing. I let her kip on my sofa and have a bath and get all cleaned up. I even bought her some new clothes the next day and gave her 20 quid to go to a shelter.

I obviously couldn't do stuff like that now though, as I wouldn't have strangers in the house with my children.

Not all (or many) homeless people are there by choice. Its usually a string of terrible luck. This girl was thrown out by her alcoholic mother and had nowhere to go as she had no friends in the area having just moved there. She had been beaten and sexually assaulted in the 5 days she had slept rough.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I did that once, when younger and before I had kids actually. She was very young..maybe about 17 ish. Dirty, freezing. I let her kip on my sofa and have a bath and get all cleaned up. I even bought her some new clothes the next day and gave her 20 quid to go to a shelter.

I obviously couldn't do stuff like that now though, as I wouldn't have strangers in the house with my children.

Oh look at Miss "I have no empathy"

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh look at Miss "I have no empathy"

I know I know. Its odd. I seem to0 go through phases It was my shrink person who told me that I was a sociopath though. I don't believe it but I dont seem as in tune with my feelings as everyone else is

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I know I know. Its odd. I seem to0 go through phases It was my shrink person who told me that I was a sociopath though. I don't believe it but I dont seem as in tune with my feelings as everyone else is

hhhmmm shrinks are only people too, maybe he/she is the sociopath and was just being a ****?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I know I know. Its odd. I seem to0 go through phases It was my shrink person who told me that I was a sociopath though. I don't believe it but I dont seem as in tune with my feelings as everyone else is

Wow, I'm gob smacked. You certainly don't come over as a person who lacks empathy. You appear to have some deep set moral values. I think your shrink needs a shrink.

[Northern Monkey]

Well i once gave a prozzy a fag.Does that count as empathy?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Well i once gave a prozzy a fag.Does that count as empathy?

That's a beautiful story NM :')

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That's a beautiful story NM :')

It would've been but i dint even get a blowie.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

It would've been but i dint even get a blowie.

Well i wouldn't be an expert on prostitutes price lists but a "blowie" is surely more expensive then the cost of a cigarette

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well i wouldn't be an expert on prostitutes price lists but a "blowie" is surely more expensive then the cost of a cigarette

Not where i live