[Ammi]

...my fears are not of the virus itself...like many others I have an older parent ...I’ve had a personal health incident in my own life and there are only two reasons that I survived it...one was obviously the medical care and the other was having the strength around me of the people I love...I fear that many with Coronavirus/severe cases, won’t have either of those things...for the first time in my life, I have a son who lives in another country and with travel restrictions etc, the thought that he may become ill and that I wouldn’t be able to get to him, to be with him, I can barely breathe when I think about it...I fear the effect on human nature of the virus and the panic buying and the shortages and the recessions that will come etc.../...I fear the impact on human psychology...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

Not the virus itself, but the repercussions on the economy and the ability to travel.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if there are some permanent changes to "open travel" around the world. At the very least there will be a huge shift in multinational businesses to doing business via web conferencing rather than flying around in person, and we may also see a "voluntary" drop in international tourism for a long time (people won't be forced not to... They just won't want to).

Maybe controversial to say it but... The drop in air travel will be huge in terms of climate change . We fly far, far too much.

[Shaun]

Why are people incapable of creating polls with reasonable options, lmao

[JerseyWins]

A little worried only because of what it can do to older people. I don't want some of the older people in my family to be getting it.

There's still much fewer than 100 confirmed cases in NJ (I think between 25-50 or at worst not much more). But who knows how many are unconfirmed.


I need my sports back tho

[Amy Jade]

Not scared of getting it but scared of the repercussions felt by others if I do.

[bots]

no-one likes uncertainty, and things couldn't be more uncertain. It's not just about catching the virus, the whole structure of society, it's economics and it's priorities are going to get a reboot as a result of this

[Nicky91]

No, people are overreacting especially those selfish ones who go on that unnecessary hamstering

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

No, people are overreacting especially those selfish ones who go on that unnecessary hamstering

Well that's where it gets complicated, the people who STARTED the hoarding were over-reacting, but at this point it's not an over-reaction to try to make sure you're stocked up... Simply because the shelves are emptying fast and it's going to become increasingly hard to get things. Not because of the virus, not because of social distancing, but purely because of hoarding. Exactly like the "bread incident". You have to hoard because of hoarders, thus becoming a hoarder and compounding the issue.

Its stupid and frustrating but if you don't get some staples in now you probably won't be able to get them at all.

[Cherie]

As soon as it hit Italy badly it was hard to see how it was not going to go the same way here, human nature being what it is the panic buying was inevitable. Not particularly afraid of the virus, just hoping some normality will return soon, and that the death toll wont be too high, and that we learn from mistakes that were made this time round

[The Slim Reaper]

Vaccine-less herd immunity scares the sh1t out of me. I have vulnerable relatives that probably wouldn't make it through if we persist with the eugenicists wet dream of murderous pseudoscience.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Vaccine-less herd immunity scares the sh1t out of me. I have vulnerable relatives that probably wouldn't make it through if we persist with the eugenicists wet dream of murderous pseudoscience.

There isn't a lot of choice at this point though, there is no vaccine and it spreads too easily to halt, the social distancing and things like closing schools and workplaces isn't to halt the virus it's to ease the strain on ICU units so that every severe case that can survive, does survive. The reason the death rate is high in Italy is that (horrifyingly) a lot of people who would have pulled through in ICU are dying in the hospital corridors. There are also people dying of OTHER things because all of the beds are full of Covid patients.

But unfortunately all of the measures are about slowing ICU admissions to a manageable level. It's still going to move through the population at some rate. Realistically a vaccine is at least 6 months away or more and whatever measures are taken, they can't continue for 6 months, or (being blunt) Covid will be the least of our problems.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well that's where it gets complicated, the people who STARTED the hoarding were over-reacting, but at this point it's not an over-reaction to try to make sure you're stocked up... Simply because the shelves are emptying fast and it's going to become increasingly hard to get things. Not because of the virus, not because of social distancing, but purely because of hoarding. Exactly like the "bread incident". You have to hoard because of hoarders, thus becoming a hoarder and compounding the issue.

Its stupid and frustrating but if you don't get some staples in now you probably won't be able to get them at all.

I'm basically agreeing with everything you're writing re: coronavirus

[Nicky91]

people who hamster, need to be arrested from now on, and then it is over pretty quickly with that hoarding/hamstering from stores

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

people who hamster, need to be arrested from now on, and then it is over pretty quickly with that hoarding/hamstering from stores

How can you tell if they are or not, though? Most big stores here have limited the number of certain things people can buy, but they just send in multiple family members one at a time and go from shop to shop getting one each time... Then come back the next day and repeat.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

How can you tell if they are or not, though? Most big stores here have limited the number of certain things people can buy, but they just send in multiple family members one at a time and go from shop to shop getting one each time... Then come back the next day and repeat.

Yes Tesco’s ‘rationing’ policy was worthless, also a limit of 5, who needs 5 packs of TR or Pasta in one hit ..stupid

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

people who hamster, need to be arrested from now on, and then it is over pretty quickly with that hoarding/hamstering from stores

AHHHHH not arrested for buying 10 packs of toilet rolls

[user104658]

I also love that the German word for panic buying is apparently "Hamsterkauf"

[Crimson Dynamo]

I have just had a call from my mum, she has run out bog roll and has diarrhoea

So now i have to go on the search and take some to her.

[Captain.Remy]

It's OK, I'm on Prep.

But I miss sports, and concerts I was supposed to go to.
I know on my part I'm following the instructions from our government, so I'm doing my best. It's a question of luck sometimes. Might get it, might not get it, we'll see.
I hope everyone on Tibb will be OK!

[Ammi]

...the focus of stock piling seems to be with medication/medical supplies now...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...170209320.html

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...the focus of stock piling seems to be with medication/medical supplies now...



https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronaviru...170209320.html

Yes Ammi I posted before a couple of piccies I took; cheap paracetamol and ibuprofen shelves empty, but wildly over-priced nurofen etc still stacked full which offered me some levity . "Yes I want to stockpile all the meds I ca... Jesus christ £3.50 for a pack of ibuprofen?? **** that, leave it."

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes Ammi I posted before a couple of piccies I took; cheap paracetamol and ibuprofen shelves empty, but wildly over-priced nurofen etc still stacked full which offered me some levity . "Yes I want to stockpile all the meds I ca... Jesus christ £3.50 for a pack of ibuprofen?? **** that, leave it."

...I smiled actually when I saw something similar with loo rolls when the stock piling started...there were still quite a few packs of some of the more expensive Andrex ones but not really much else...I think with Boots though and general medical supplies..?..it started as fairly focused on specific things like generic pain relief, as you’ve said....but there’s less focus now and it’s becoming ALL ShELVEs....I think we’re going to have little trades going on like with football cards...?....one multivitamin bottle for a 12 pack of ibuprofen....deal or no deal, TS...?...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I smiled actually when I saw something similar with loo rolls when the stock piling started...there were still quite a few packs of some of the more expensive Andrex ones but not really much else...I think with Boots though and general medical supplies..?..it started as fairly focused on specific things like generic pain relief, as you’ve said....but there’s less focus now and it’s becoming ALL ShELVEs....I think we’re going to have little trades going on like with football cards...?....one multivitamin bottle for a 12 pack of ibuprofen....deal or no deal, TS...?...

It's the opposite at my nearest Tesco - when I say the shelves are "empty" of toilet roll, they are not, there is a huge, conspicuous, pile of the cheapest "value" stuff that looks literally untouched . To be fair it's like sand paper and clearly everyone knows! You'd be better using literally anything else. Piece of old carpet, the shower curtain, a cat...

[arista]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

It's OK, I'm on Prep.

But I miss sports, and concerts I was supposed to go to.
I know on my part I'm following the instructions from our government, so I'm doing my best. It's a question of luck sometimes. Might get it, might not get. We'll see.
I hope everyone on Tibb will be OK!

Yes it worse in France
Hang in there Capt. Remy

[arista]

LBC live now
A Covid 19
a Doctor Live at home.

Came back from NYC Conf.
She is 60 year old GP.



She says its like the Flu more. Big Fever



Good on Matt Frei
Getting a Top Guest on the Phone.


https://www.lbc.co.uk/



She is Good
and thinks after she can
Visit Covid 19 at home.

She also says she thinks the NYC Hotel
gave it to her,