[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

none can "transition" sex

that is the whole basis of this dangerous lie

all people can do is pretend to (which in normal life is grand, knock yourself out)

that does not help actual women and small girls in safe spaces..

And since when did you care about women’s protection in public spaces?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

And since when did you care about women’s protection in public spaces?

I have 2 daughters

how may do you have?

[Crimson Dynamo]

for example

A transgender sex offender is being housed in a women's prison following a
conviction for armed robbery.

The man is also standing trial while incarcerated on additional charges of
impersonating a police officer and possessing child pornography.



https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1801357461481263270

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

for example

A transgender sex offender is being housed in a women's prison following a
conviction for armed robbery.

The man is also standing trial while incarcerated on additional charges of
impersonating a police officer and possessing child pornography.



https://x.com/ReduxxMag/status/1801357461481263270

Why do you ever only have extreme examples to boot?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

Why do you ever only have extreme examples to boot?

any dangerous man in a a woman's safe space is extreme

there are NO degrees

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

any dangerous man in a a woman's safe space is extreme

there are NO degrees

What about safe trans-women in women’s spaces?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

What about safe trans-women in women’s spaces?

well you work out a system to ensure that and we can talk

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The Problem is predators are taking advantage of this whole thing, but if you haven't even attempted to look like a woman & you still have male parts ,then you shouldn't be using women's bathrooms. There should be respect 2 ways.

But men are walking into women's spaces as bold as anything , they're not even attempting to look 'female'. In America it looks like both men & women are walking in each others lockerooms like it's the norm, a man was
caught shaving in a women's space & a woman was
caught filming men in a men's lockeroom.

So it's all a joke & a big fat mess, privacy is important and nowadays it seems more & more people are overstepping boundaries and making women & children feel uncomfortable for the sake of it .

I know this poll is mainly about public bathrooms,but I'm glad I don't use gyms anymore.

Did she get arrested for it?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

In 2024, why are we still saying “women and children”?

Tbf, why can't people say women and children?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

What about safe trans-women in women’s spaces?

We are worrying about 0.3% here at best/worst !


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[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Maybe he was interested in finding out the specifics on a set criteria that he'd chosen? It's not as though there aren't other threads about trans people where people can and have been able to give full opinions, or at least post tweets by libs of tik tok spuriously editing vids at least

So you've also noticed Libs Of Tik Tok using editing techniques to make certain conversations/scenarios come across as more sinister than they actually were.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Tbf, why can't people say women and children?

I don’t know. I just feel like in many ways it infantilises grown-arse women. Women have more pelvic strength than men in any case (otherwise men would be able to give birth) so it’s not a fact that women are generally weaker than men in every physical domain. Not to deny that dangerous men can pose obvious dangers to women but “women and children” in many ways harks back to a sexist time.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I don’t know. I just feel like in many ways it infantilises grown-arse women. Women have more pelvic strength than men in any case (otherwise men would be able to give birth) so it’s not a fact that women are generally weaker than men in every physical domain. Not to deny that dangerous men can pose obvious dangers to women but “women and children” in many ways harks back to a sexist time.

I'm pretty sure men would not be able to give birth regardless of pelvic strength

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

I don’t know. I just feel like in many ways it infantilises grown-arse women. Women have more pelvic strength than men in any case (otherwise men would be able to give birth) so it’s not a fact that women are generally weaker than men in every physical domain. Not to deny that dangerous men can pose obvious dangers to women but “women and children” in many ways harks back to a sexist time.

It's kind of hard for me to explain, but I think men and women always think that they have to protect the opposite sex.

Like when a woman cries and is in a more vulnerable place (mentally) normally it'll be a guy that will comfort her, and vice versa, if a guy is crying then it'll normally be the woman that approaches the guy to see if he is okay.

Because sub-consciously I do think that men and women see the opposite sex in different ways as the more vulnerable half, and therefore needs to be protected, obviously you can interpret these feelings as sexist, but Human nature in some ways can be interpreted that way I suppose, and it isn't always a good thing imo to make Human Beings operate in a way that isn't natural to us as a species.

I hope that I'm:
1. Making sense.

And 2. Not sounding like a complete nutjob.

And imo children are definitely the most vulnerable people in our species, so they definitely need to be protected from anything potentially dangerous.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm pretty sure men would not be able to give birth regardless of pelvic strength

I mean. Yes. But either way, giving birth takes remarkable strength and we tend to overlook that in many of our conversations about gender and physical strength.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

It's kind of hard for me to explain, but I think men and women always think that they have to protect the opposite sex.

Like when a woman cries and is in a more vulnerable place (mentally) normally it'll be a guy that will comfort her, and vice versa, if a guy is crying then it'll normally be the woman that approaches the guy to see if he is okay.

Because sub-consciously I do think that men and women see the opposite sex in different ways as the more vulnerable half, and therefore needs to be protected, obviously you can interpret these feelings as sexist, but Human nature in some ways can be interpreted that way I suppose, and it isn't always a good thing imo to make Human Beings operate in a way that isn't natural to us as a species.

I hope that I'm:
1. Making sense.

And 2. Not sounding like a complete nutjob.

And imo children are definitely the most vulnerable people in our species, so they definitely need to be protected from anything potentially dangerous.

No, I get where you’re coming from, Mock. You don’t sound anything like nuts.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Did she get arrested for it?

Doubt it ,but the guy who filmed it must have reported her to planet fitness ,but it seems all sorts of crazy stuff is happening there . So who knows if they even listen to complaints.

It was shared online as that's what people do now to show evidence & proof I guess as a warning to people , I think Joey Swoll reacted to . Check him out he's really good . He calls out disgusting bad behaviour that usually happens in gyms , changing rooms etc etc .

[Alf]

Women should stop being bigots and just allow men who believe they are, and want to be women to use the ladies facilities.

This is 2024, get with the times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

I mean. Yes. But either way, giving birth takes remarkable strength and we tend to overlook that in many of our conversations about gender and physical strength.

what on earth

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I mean. Yes. But either way, giving birth takes remarkable strength and we tend to overlook that in many of our conversations about gender and physical strength.

Yes but it's not going to help you much if you're being attacked is it? I'm not saying men are better or superior to women but we are different. I can't believe I'm having to spell this out, it's a fact everyone knew 5 minutes ago, it is the whole reason for sex segregated spaces in the first place

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Zizu

We are worrying about 0.3% here at best/worst !


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I'm not worried about the trans population. I'm worried about the criminal one, which is higher. We're talking about how to accommodate everyone, which is a conversation to have, but we can't ignore that the anti-social population still exists and they're emboldened by the doing away of basic social boundaries. Boundaries are very much needed, as hurtful as that is to hear for some, they're needed.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what on earth

Shut up, you.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

No, I get where you’re coming from, Mock. You don’t sound anything like nuts.

Thanks, that's good to know.

Because I sometimes wonder if my views on certain topics are a bit weird or illogical, but I'm glad that you don't think so, Redway.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Doubt it ,but the guy who filmed it must have reported her to planet fitness ,but it seems all sorts of crazy stuff is happening there . So who knows if they even listen to complaints.

It was shared online as that's what people do now to show evidence & proof I guess as a warning to people , I think Joey Swoll reacted to . Check him out he's really good . He calls out disgusting bad behaviour that usually happens in gyms , changing rooms etc etc .

I'll checkout Joey Swoll's video out later, thanks for the recommendation.

I honestly don't get how people get so degenerate that they're stalking people in the bathroom.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Redway

I don’t know. I just feel like in many ways it infantilises grown-arse women. Women have more pelvic strength than men in any case (otherwise men would be able to give birth) so it’s not a fact that women are generally weaker than men in every physical domain. Not to deny that dangerous men can pose obvious dangers to women but “women and children” in many ways harks back to a sexist time.

Redway I don't mean to be grim here but the strength difference between men and women can't and should not be overlooked.

The vast majority of physically-able adult men if going all out, can quite easily beat a woman or child to death with their bare hands. It can, and does, happen.

It is almost impossible for the average woman to beat an adult man to death (or even severe injury) with their bare hands. They'd have to at the very least be combat trained, and against a below average strength man.

Can a woman severely beat a man, yes, but it will essentially always have involved a blunt instrument, not fists.

There is no comparison and anyone suggesting g that the average adult male is not a clear physical threat to the average adult female is sadly completely wrong.