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There have been lots of studies on this here un the UK. Making your name sound more Anglo saxons usually get you and interview in less time than you do if you have a foreign sounding name....


https://www.beapplied.com/post/whats...ore%20foreign.
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UK government, 2012 – an all parliamentary group study found that women from ethnic minorities who “whitened” their names or changed them to sound more Anglo-Saxon had to apply for half as many jobs to receive an interview invitation as those whose names sounded more foreign.

· BBC’s Inside Out London, 2017 – even with a small sample size of two candidates and 100 job opportunities, this study reflected the same pattern of discrimination. While both candidates were equally qualified, “Adam” received 12 interview offers while “Mohamed” was only offered four.
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There have been lots of studies on this here un the UK. Making your name sound more Anglo saxons usually get you and interview in less time than you do if you have a foreign sounding name....


https://www.beapplied.com/post/whats...ore%20foreign.
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UK government, 2012 – an all parliamentary group study found that women from ethnic minorities who “whitened” their names or changed them to sound more Anglo-Saxon had to apply for half as many jobs to receive an interview invitation as those whose names sounded more foreign.

· BBC’s Inside Out London, 2017 – even with a small sample size of two candidates and 100 job opportunities, this study reflected the same pattern of discrimination. While both candidates were equally qualified, “Adam” received 12 interview offers while “Mohamed” was only offered four.
Unfortunately, your sources aren't great and we know how some forum members like to discredit any source that contradicts them. I like that LT's source actually backs up the arguments.
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Sorry, but it's how it should be..

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Sorry, but it's how it should be..

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Problem is that its in the USA
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Problem is that its in the USA
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Yeah itust be the white people at fault. I mean in black or Asian countries I bet white names never get discrimination


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Yeah itust be the white people at fault. I mean in black or Asian countries I bet white names never get discrimination

Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have.
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Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have.
I've never seen danny Dyer in a Bollywood movie.
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…I don’t know about surnames but I just found a site that lists some names and their origins…and it is specific to ‘black children chosen names…’…


…anyway, Dwight is listed as a chosen name for male black children…its origin/meaning….

Meaning: “Little and dark”
Origin: Irish
Cultural Significance: Represents the beauty and strength found in diversity.



…its only one site, I’m aware…but its helpful for us to understand why a name might be looked at with discrimination if this case goes through the legal system etc…

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…I don’t know about surnames but I just found a site that lists some names and their origins…and it is specific to ‘black children chosen names…’…


…anyway, Dwight is listed as a chosen name for male black children…its origin/meaning….

Meaning: “Little and dark”
Origin: Irish
Cultural Significance: Represents the beauty and strength found in diversity.
Well I really hope he wins his case now
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Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have.
I'll find some no mark fake suing some company for parity

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Very defensive.

Are white people being denied opportunities in black and Asian countries? Possibly, probably, who knows. Give us all the proof you have.
Don’t mind this clown.
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Tbh the name "Dwight" suggests a toothless yokel who lives in a tunnel. Maybe that was the problem?
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I wouldn't have thought Dwight was a black sounding name either, like Oliver i would have pictured a white country guy, maybe it's with Jackson as a surname though?
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**Not that I'm that up on American names or anything
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**Not that I'm that up on American names or anything
Jackson is reliably found among the top twenty last names in the U.S.
According to WorldNames public profiler, the Jackson surname is found in the
greatest numbers in the U.K. and Australia. It is most prevalent in northern
England, especially Cumbria county.

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There is no way you could prove that the recruiter thought "Dwight Jackson, oh yeah the guy must be black with that name and as a racist I will not give him an interview"


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There is no way you could prove that the recruiter thought "Dwight Jackson, oh yeah the guy must be black with that name and as a racist I will not give him an interview"


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It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working
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It is a bit strange though that they did reject his CV multiple times until he changed his name. To me the name he chose sounds white/Polish and with stereotypes applied I would think that Polish people have a reputation for being hard working
Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip
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Its nothing more than coincidence playing into his massive shoulder chip
I mean, if everything he's said is correct (which I'm sure he'll have to back up in his law suit) I would say there's more evidence to say he's right and his name change made the difference. I don't know whether they thought he was black or whether they thought he was "white trash" but either way it's discrimination because of his name.
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I could accept it being coincidence (or a different recruiter) if he'd just done it twice. Multiple rejections with his real name and then interview the FIRST time using an alternative name seems like more than coincidence and assuming all other elements of the application were the same, it seems likely to be the name. Though I do agree with Niamh above - hard to prove the race element from one example, there might be another reason for the name-bias. Having been involved in recruitment... sadly, if it's all one recruiter it could be as simple as them personally not liking the name "Dwight", and arbitrarily rejecting.

I'm not saying it isn't because of race though -- unfortunately it absolutely IS the reason a lot of the time. Just saying that it will probably be hard to prove without multiple examples of the same thing happening with different names.
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Are we saying this thread that if it happened once then OK but multiple time means its racist. Surely not.

BTW the name Dwight Jackson, to me, very much says black man. Especially in the USA. Google it and see what comes up.
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Are we saying this thread that if it happened once then OK but multiple time means its racist. Surely not.

BTW the name Dwight Jackson, to me, very much says black man. Especially in the USA. Google it and see what comes up.
I 100% agree.

If I was the recruiter, I would 100% think that Dwight Jackson is a black man... And then reject his application.

But seriously, I would hazard a strong guess that Dwight Jackson is a black person if I were the recruiter.
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I 100% agree.

If I was the recruiter, I would 100% think that Dwight Jackson is a black man... And then reject his application.

But seriously, I would hazard a strong guess that Dwight Jackson is a black person if I were the recruiter.
Mock stop talking bs Dwight Jackson as a name suggests nothing to anyone

This case is baseless and wil be thrown out
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Mock stop talking bs Dwight Jackson as a name suggests nothing to anyone

This case is baseless and wil be thrown out
You don't think that an American named Dwight Jackson gives out a clue as to his race?

It'd be like saying that someone called Ji Sung Park isn't Asian.
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