[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

No real issue with closing a thread that's gone completely off-piste but you can't leave behind the posts that lead to it being closed - or at least, mine seem to be regularly deleted when it's those that have caused the thread to be closed . I'm being 100% genuine when I say all I'm asking for is fairness and consistency - it's not so much about the actual decision.

Fair enough, deleting a thread is often better for that reason but that can also make people aggrieved when they spend time posting on a thread and it just disappears

[Redway]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Fair enough, deleting a thread is often better for that reason but that can also make people aggrieved when they spend time posting on a thread and it just disappears

You’ve got to stop doing that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well that thread in question was from October and descended into a bit of a shitshow on being bumped so closing it was very sensible if I do say so myself

Much of this thread is a fine 1:1 debate but could be carried out over PM too

But your job is to moderate not decide what threads are valid. I doubt any participants thought it was a sh1tshow so why did you ask a non participant?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

But your job is to moderate not decide what threads are valid. I doubt any participants thought it was a sh1tshow so why did you ask a non participant?

Closing threads is moderating and you are welcome

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well that thread in question was from October and descended into a bit of a shitshow on being bumped so closing it was very sensible if I do say so myself

Much of this thread is a fine 1:1 debate but could be carried out over PM too

A thread hasn't become a shitshow until either me or LT have posted on the thread.

Just kidding LT, you know that I value you as a member... Deep down somewhere.

[user104658]

Bit worrying that the only thing everyone can agree on is that threads get closed/deleted too quickly .

[Redway]

I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been deleted already.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’m surprised this thread hasn’t been deleted already.

Agreed

[Ammi]

…who is QB, I don’t know…#Make Administrators Jolly Again, though…

[Niamh.]

Getting back to the original topic of this thread, it's such an odd complaint to have. That someone has debate style, well thought out posts in the the serious debates section. I think we could do with more of that type posting in this section actually. Sorry Redway

[Cherie]

Tbf QB only posts in SB, so I expect he would post in a debate style

[bots]

at this point it would be worth remembering the novels that Vicky has/had a habit of posting that well worth a read . The whole point about debate is that it can have many sides that need exploring and most things don't tend to be black and white

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

at this point it would be worth remembering the novels that Vicky has/had a habit of posting that well worth a read . The whole point about debate is that it can have many sides that need exploring and most things don't tend to be black and white

Yes indeed. I miss Vicky 😢

[user104658]

Originally Posted by bots

at this point it would be worth remembering the novels that Vicky has/had a habit of posting that well worth a read . The whole point about debate is that it can have many sides that need exploring and most things don't tend to be black and white

I've been on various forums since I was 12 years old, and Vicky has the prestigious title of having written the longest single forum post I've ever seen in 25+ years . I can't even remember what the topic was, I just remember the dazzling length of the post.

[James]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I've been on various forums since I was 12 years old, and Vicky has the prestigious title of having written the longest single forum post I've ever seen in 25+ years . I can't even remember what the topic was, I just remember the dazzling length of the post.

This is Vicky's longest post on the forum, by my calculations.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...2#post11008492

[Ray.]

Originally Posted by James

This is Vicky's longest post on the forum, by my calculations.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/for...2#post11008492

I almost feel like I've read epic Russian novels shorter than that.

[thesheriff443]

The forum should be run by AI that detects insults removes posts infracts and bans as appropriate

My opinion as never changed, members should not be mods
We get mods have lives to live and can’t mod 24/7 and that’s another reason for AI

It’s human nature to be biased even if you claim not to be

It’s easier to judge than it is to be judged

[Livia]

Since when did an "intellectual sparring match" include claiming people are stupid, that they're liars, that they need toy quantum boy to "dumb down" his responses to them? That's not a debate style I'm aware of.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Livia

Since when did an "intellectual sparring match" include claiming people are stupid, that they're liars, that they need toy quantum boy to "dumb down" his responses to them? That's not a debate style I'm aware of.

#1, it wasn't my choice of phrase .

I've also always maintained that if TiBB wants to enforce a proper debates section where people debate in good faith without the insults then I'd very much like to use that, and would absolutely stick to those rules.

It's never happened.

So I engage with what we have, at the level we have it, as we all do.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

#1, it wasn't my choice of phrase .

I've also always maintained that if TiBB wants to enforce a proper debates section where people debate in good faith without the insults then I'd very much like to use that, and would absolutely stick to those rules.

It's never happened.

So I engage with what we have, at the level we have it, as we all do.

Tbf you are one of the few members on here who constantly insults other members by calling them thick, dumb, stupid etc because they dont align with your world view, I dont see anyone retaliating in a similar vein...so not sure you have a leg to stand on that one!

[Redway]

If there’s one thing I’m blatantly not, QB, it’s stupid. And the whole splitting hairs between “I’m not a primary-school teacher” and the natural inference (‘go back to primary-school) is a prime example, like i said, of whar I’m talking about. You’re so deep into your continual style of being pedantic and contentious that you can’t even see it. I don’t know whether to laugh at this point or still just be annoyed.

Like I said, I don’t inherently dislike you or even necessarily disagree with much of what you’re on about a lot of the time. It’s your style, which breaks through many sub-sections as far as I can tell (so not just Serious Debates and News), that irritates me.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Redway

If there’s one thing I’m blatantly not, QB, it’s stupid. And the whole splitting hairs between “I’m not a primary-school teacher” and the natural inference (‘go back to primary-school) is a prime example, like i said, of whar I’m talking about. You’re so deep into your continual style of being pedantic and contentious that you can’t even see it. I don’t know whether to laugh at this point or still just be annoyed.

Like I said, I don’t inherently dislike you or even necessarily disagree with much of what you’re on about a lot of the time. It’s your style, which breaks through many sub-sections as far as I can tell (so not just Serious Debates and News), that irritates me.

Redway I'm a total loss about why it should concern me that my style irritates you. That's all I can say really. I don't care - and I don't mean that in a confrontational or defensive way, I don't dislike you either, I just am genuinely completely indifferent to whether or not my posting style irritates you.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Tbf you are one of the few members on here who constantly insults other members by calling them thick, dumb, stupid etc because they dont align with your world view, I dont see anyone retaliating in a similar vein...so not sure you have a leg to stand on that one!

The bits in bold come on now Cherie - the only explanation I can think of there is that you've not logged on before they're deleted? I can't even engage thoughtfully with a thread these days without a snarky "Oh here comes Mr Know it all" from one of TiBB's saddest power couple.

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I've also always maintained that if TiBB wants to enforce a proper debates section where people debate in good faith without the insults then I'd very much like to use that, and would absolutely stick to those rules.

It's never happened.

So I engage with what we have, at the level we have it, as we all do.

I can't really even bit in bold this as a reply/ It's just the whole reply Cherie. I'm not saying I engage properly on this forum - I'm quite clearly saying that IF TiBB ever decides it wants to properly create a section where that's the rules/etiquette then I'd happily engage with it and stick to that, but it's not what we've got, and I'm not here to set an example. We have a forum full of people trolling and playing dumb 3/4 of the time. That's just me calling it as I see it. Why would I not respond in kind, when the staff have no intention of stopping any of that? I've tried multiple times to engage the staff on the trolling, gaslightling and nonsense rightwing propaganda that's completely infested this forum but James has made it abundantly clear that he's not interested. Show me a good forum or even a good thread and I'll engage with it like it's a good thread, show me trash and I'll fire back some trash.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

The bits in bold come on now Cherie - the only explanation I can think of there is that you've not logged on before they're deleted? I can't even engage thoughtfully with a thread these days without a snarky "Oh here comes Mr Know it all" from one of TiBB's saddest power couple.



I can't really even bit in bold this as a reply/ It's just the whole reply Cherie. I'm not saying I engage properly on this forum - I'm quite clearly saying that IF TiBB ever decides it wants to properly create a section where that's the rules/etiquette then I'd happily engage with it and stick to that, but it's not what we've got, and I'm not here to set an example. We have a forum full of people trolling and playing dumb 3/4 of the time. That's just me calling it as I see it. Why would I not respond in kind, when the staff have no intention of stopping any of that? I've tried multiple times to engage the staff on the trolling, gaslightling and nonsense rightwing propaganda that's completely infested this forum but James has made it abundantly clear that he's not interested. Show me a good forum or even a good thread and I'll engage with it like it's a good thread, show me trash and I'll fire back some trash.

And where exactly did I (of all people) play dumb to the extent that you had to remind me you’re not a primary-school teacher?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

The bits in bold come on now Cherie - the only explanation I can think of there is that you've not logged on before they're deleted? I can't even engage thoughtfully with a thread these days without a snarky "Oh here comes Mr Know it all" from one of TiBB's saddest power couple.



I can't really even bit in bold this as a reply/ It's just the whole reply Cherie. I'm not saying I engage properly on this forum - I'm quite clearly saying that IF TiBB ever decides it wants to properly create a section where that's the rules/etiquette then I'd happily engage with it and stick to that, but it's not what we've got, and I'm not here to set an example. We have a forum full of people trolling and playing dumb 3/4 of the time. That's just me calling it as I see it. Why would I not respond in kind, when the staff have no intention of stopping any of that? I've tried multiple times to engage the staff on the trolling, gaslightling and nonsense rightwing propaganda that's completely infested this forum but James has made it abundantly clear that he's not interested. Show me a good forum or even a good thread and I'll engage with it like it's a good thread, show me trash and I'll fire back some trash.

Yeah I get that but it still does not have to involve personal comments about members, their relationships, or how they use their personal downtime

I dont know who TiBBs power couple are ...is it Neem and MTVN...that would make sense