[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I've just read the article Kizzy so you're not talking to yourself. I am with you on this, I don't think her "opinions" should be publicised either. They are too extreme and although I still maintain it's an act with her for attention, she is getting worse and it should not be allowed

Thankyou Annie, I didn't listen to her LBC show I will do even though I'm pretty sure I'll regret it
The fact her show appears to be popular is a damning indictment of how regressive we're becoming, views like hers on this issue have no place in civilised society as nobody should be considered less than human for merely trying to survive.

[Helen 28]

She had her own show on LBC today I listened and couldn't disagree with anything she said.
LBC have said they've had their biggest favourable response to any programme they've ever broadcast today so expect her to become a regular.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

She had her own show on LBC today I listened and couldn't disagree with anything she said.
LBC have said they've had their biggest favourable response to any programme they've ever broadcast today so expect her to become a regular.

i am an lbc listener and did not even know about this



i will listen again now

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

i am an lbc listener and did not even know about this



i will listen again now

I don't think you'll be able to for a while as it was a one-off sitting in for Beverley Turner but I bet she'll be back.

[waterhog]

going to have to dig this out and have a listen.

[Kizzy]

There's some here, had a listen and the caller is very forthright in telling her that labeling people as cockroaches is dehumanising them.... What does katie do? cuts her off and tells her to 'go read some more guardian newspaper'.
She's a joke that just isn't funny anymore.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10187792.html

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

There's some here, had a listen and the caller is very forthright in telling her that labeling people as cockroaches is dehumanising them.... What does katie do? cuts her off and tells her to 'go read some more guardian newspaper'.
She's a joke that just isn't funny anymore.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...-10187792.html

That caller is Diane Abbott.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

That caller is Diane Abbott.

It's a lady called Ronkey * cue mocking comments*

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's a lady called Ronkey * cue mocking comments*

Definitely the racist Diane Abbott in disguise..

[hijaxers]

There is an online petition at change.org to have said trout face removed as a columnist on the Sun newspaper (shyte paper - would have thought it was beneath her highness to work there)

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

Definitely the racist Diane Abbott in disguise..

In disguise... Could you see what she was wearing through the radio?

[waterhog]

does not matter what she dresses up like - she will always be the same underneath - desperate for air time.

well done katie - one more comment from me - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[empire]

diane abbott is a racist anti white anti english, scumbag,

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by empire

diane abbott is a racist anti white anti english, scumbag,

It wasn't Diane Abbott :/

[Niamh.]

Katie Hopkins and The Sun editor David Dinsmore reported to police for incitement to racial hatred following migrant boat column

Katie Hopkins and the editor of The Sun, David Dinsmore, have been reported to the Metropolitan police for incitement to racial hatred.

It follows the publication of a column by Hopkins in the tabloid on 17 April, in which she described migrants desperate to reach Britain following humanitarian disasters in their own countries as “cockroaches” and suggested the government deploy “gunships” to stop them landing on shore.

The complaint was made by the Society of Black Lawyers directly to the Metropolitan Police Commissioners Office, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, at 4.05pm on 20 April.

It reads:

Spoiler:

It reads:

Dear Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe,

I hope this email finds you well. You will recall that I was an independent member of the Metropolitan Police Authority (2000 to 2008) and Vice Chair for a period of two years during part of your earlier career at the MPS.

As former Chair of the MPS Hate Crime Forum we did on occasions report incidents of incitement to racial hatred directly to the Commissioners Office for urgent action. More recently as SBL we have done so with anti-Semitic and/or racist comments in the football arena.

The recent comments by the Sun journalist Katie Hopkins, authorised for publication by her Editor and senior staff, are sadly some of the most offensive, xenophobic and racist comments I have read in a British newspaper for some years. These comments comparing the African migrants fleeing Libya to “cockroaches” , almost certainly all “trafficked” persons facing intimidation, violence and extortion at the point of departure represent some of the most vulnerable people in international law at the present time. Many will have legitimate claims for asylum under the 1951 Geneva Convention.


The use of this term employs a word used with devastating results to describe the Tutsi minority and Hutu moderates during the 1994 Rwanda genocide when they were referred to by those responsible for the genocide as “cockroaches”. This fact is well known to journalists and is a matter of historical record proved by the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) in several judgments.

The Society of Black Lawyers (SBL) therefore requests that this matter is investigated as a matter of urgency under the Public Order Act 1986. I am aware that this section requires some intention but given the scale of the tragedy currently unfolding, the likelihood some some of these migrants may already be in the UK having fled during previous months or likely to land here in due course these comments can amount to incitement to racial hatred.

We are in the process of writing formally to the International Criminal Court to petition for an investigation into these comments under the provisions of incitement to commit crimes against humanity.

Given the huge circulation of these comments in the Sun and in the media generally, the propensity for racial violence against people of African descent in the UK is obvious. We request that these matters be investigated as a matter of urgency and the case file be passed to the CPS for a decision to be made as to the merits of a prosecution.

We will submit a more detailed letter in the course of this evening but would request that your office makes a public statement about the need to avoid such comments being made by any in the media whilst this matter is the subject of a criminal investigation.

Our complaint is against the journalist herself, the Editor of the Sun newspaper and other editorial staff involved in the publication of this commentary. We would request that you obtain a transcript of her interview that we understand was conducted on LBC radio on Sunday morning, 19th April 2015.

The journalist concerned sought to justify her comments in that radio interview so may provide evidence of her state of mind.

Yours sincerely,

Peter

D. Peter Herbert O.B.E.

Chair Society of Black Lawyers

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/pe...=facebook-post

[Kizzy]

It's saddening even the lawyers taking action have to categorise themselves as black or white, it's not a race issue it's an humanitarian one imo.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's saddening even the lawyers taking action have to categorise themselves as black or white, it's not a race issue it's an humanitarian one imo.

They CALL THEMSELVES 'THE SOCIETY OF BLACK LAWYERS' - no one else gave them that title or FORCED it upon them.

And it's extremely illuminating as to just how closely defined certain 'HUMANITARIAN' issues are on here by 'race' or 'religion'.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

They CALL THEMSELVES 'THE SOCIETY OF BLACK LAWYERS' - no one else gave them that title or FORCED it upon them.

And it's extremely illuminating as to just how closely defined certain 'HUMANITARIAN' issues are on here by 'race' or 'religion'.

I know they did, you don't have to embolden it for me I read it in the article Niamh posted thankyou.

Yes it is illuminating, how seemingly when there is a break in the eternal loop of 'white, Christian, European' then there is a crisis to even see the situation as an humanitarian issue, as the people involved are considered as less than human.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I know they did, you don't have to embolden it for me I read it in the article Niamh posted thankyou.

Yes it is illuminating, how seemingly when there is a break in the eternal loop of 'white, Christian, European' then there is a crisis to even see the situation as an humanitarian issue, as the people involved are considered as less than human.

I'm not fully with you as to what you mean, but what I meant is; that there is a distinct pattern on here, that the louder voices are heard in greater numbers in defence of 'Open Door' immigration and in protesting against those who do not share that view, and in lamenting the death of drowned immigrants of unstated faiths than in lamenting shot and beheaded Christians, and in protesting against the imbecilic views of an attention seeker such as Katie Hopkins against immigrants, than there has been in protesting against the far graver and more genuinely evil Hate Speeches and incitements to murder against UK citizens by immigrant iSLAMIC Preachers.

It seems to me that such 'Humanitarianism' is truly highly selective.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I'm not fully with you as to what you mean, but what I meant is; that there is a distinct pattern on here, that the louder voices are heard in greater numbers in defence of 'Open Door' immigration and in protesting against those who do not share that view, and in lamenting the death of drowned immigrants of unstated faiths than in lamenting shot and beheaded Christians, and in protesting against the imbecilic views of an attention seeker such as Katie Hopkins against immigrants, than there has been in protesting against the far graver and more genuinely evil Hate Speeches and incitements to murder against UK citizens by immigrant iSLAMIC Preachers.

It seems to me that such 'Humanitarianism' is truly highly selective.

No I don't agree that any 'open door' immigration voices are louder at all as that is Europe wide only and nothing to do with this at all you're simplifying the issue.
The attitude to death is what defines your humanity.

[joeysteele]

My answer would be that the Sun be removed from society and take all the vile columnists it employs, whose rotten unnecessary and despicable comments it then prints, with it too.

Nothing will likely come of it but I am glad someones patience has finally worn out as to this 'inhuman' woman.
Good on him and good on the petition too that is also condemning her.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My answer would be that the Sun be removed from society and take all the vile columnists it employs, whose rotten unnecessary and despicable comments it then prints, with it too.

Nothing will likely come of it but I am glad someones patience has finally worn out as to this 'inhuman' woman.
Good on him and good on the petition too that is also condemning her.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

My answer would be that the Sun be removed from society and take all the vile columnists it employs, whose rotten unnecessary and despicable comments it then prints, with it too.

Nothing will likely come of it but I am glad someones patience has finally worn out as to this 'inhuman' woman.
Good on him and good on the petition too that is also condemning her.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Helen 28

I presume that all the readers of the Sun can also be called rotten, vile, and despicable in your view.

You presume totally incorrectly then.

People buy the Sun and never read it, I know loads of epopel who buy it read the TV page, the problem page,then bin it.
They couldn't tell you a thing it says.

I know people who only buy it on a saturday,take out the TV mag bit and then throw it out.
It is the one of the,if not the cheapest of the papers in the main.

So no I do not think that any Sun readers are despicable at all, only the people who edit and print the Sun.
Some of my closest friends buy the Sun, I don't know one of them who takes what it says seriously though,or would act on what it says either.

Most say they buy it because it is a laugh.
However, no, you were wrong to presume as you did about me,and it is never wise really to presume as to how anyone else thinks or behaves either with respect,when you don't know them either.

[Helen 28]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes thats the Mirror Paper

The Mirror has posted some awful stuff over the years but that will be fine because it's a labour paper.

I remember the faked front page about British soldiers abusing an Iraqi, totally faked by the Mirror as they've traditionally had a downer on the armed forces.

The only good thing to come out of that was the horrible Piers Morgan was sacked.