[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Because he's not reported Anjem Choudary, Mizanur Rahman, and Abu Hamza, his points about this particular incident don't matter? You could say that about anybody who reports/complains about anything

No - I did NOT say that Niamh.

I don't even know if he did or didn't report Choudary and company, but all I was saying is that there have been FAR greater HATE crimes than Hopkins one, perpetrated on a daily basis in the UK for years, yet we do not hear of similar letters from The Society of Black Lawyers to the Metropolitan Police - or at least I can find no examples.

One offence does not negate another, but though this 'letter' is definitely warranted - it's motives appear rather partisan to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No - I did NOT say that Niamh.

I don't even know if he did or didn't report Choudary and company, but all I was saying is that there have been FAR greater HATE crimes than Hopkins one, perpetrated on a daily basis in the UK for years, yet we do not hear of similar letters from The Society of Black Lawyers to the Metropolitan Police - or at least I can find no examples.

One offence does not negate another, but though this 'letter' is definitely warranted - it's motives appear rather partisan to me.

Why bring it up then if not to try to discredit the man and his complaint about Katie Hopkins and the Sun Editor?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Why bring it up then if not to try to discredit the man and his complaint about Katie Hopkins and the Sun Editor?

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand what you mean? What I meant by my post was; does this 'Black Lawyer' find Hopkins comments against immigrants more offensive than Immigrant Islamic Preacher's Hate Speeches against the British? And if so, WHY? when Hopkins comments - though offensive - are far more benign in comparison than Choudary's or Hamza's?

Hate Speech is Hate Speech, and I would find D. Peter Herbert's reporting of Hopkins far more acceptable and 'noble' if I was assured that he had been as equally moved and incensed by the far more serious Hate Speeches of Hamza and company and had similarly reported them.

In a similar vein, I am a Christian, but I find ISIS beheadings of ANY innocent victims evil and atrocious - no matter what the Nationality, Colour, Race or Faith of those victims - and I have posted as much accordingly.

Just my opinion.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand what you mean?

I mean, why was you immediate response to the article I posted to say

"I have NO time for Katie Hopkins but I wonder how many times the man who reported her to the Metropolitan police - Chair of the Society of Black Lawyers, D Peter Herbert O.B.E. - reported Islamic Hate preachers such as Anjem Choudary, Mizanur Rahman, and Abu Hamza?"

Instead of actually commenting on what the man was complaining about, you choose to comment on what he was not complaining about instead?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I mean, why was you immediate response to the article I posted to say

"I have NO time for Katie Hopkins but I wonder how many times the man who reported her to the Metropolitan police - Chair of the Society of Black Lawyers, D Peter Herbert O.B.E. - reported Islamic Hate preachers such as Anjem Choudary, Mizanur Rahman, and Abu Hamza?"

Instead of actually commenting on what the man was complaining about, you choose to comment on what he was not complaining about instead?

Sorry Niamh, but I edited my post to add an explanation and I think it crossed with your response. I had already stated several times that Hopkins was wrong and condemned her for it so I had no need to comment on the article.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

I'm sorry, but I really don't understand what you mean? What I meant by my post was; does this 'Black Lawyer' find Hopkins comments against immigrants more offensive than Immigrant Islamic Preacher's Hate Speeches against the British? And if so, WHY? when Hopkins comments - though offensive - are far more benign in comparison than Choudary's or Hamza's?

Hate Speech is Hate Speech, and I would find D. Peter Herbert's reporting of Hopkins far more acceptable and 'noble' if I was assured that he had been as equally moved and incensed by the far more serious Hate Speeches of Hamza and company and had similarly reported them.

In a similar vein, I am a Christian, but I find ISIS beheadings of ANY innocent victims evil and atrocious - no matter what the Nationality, Colour, Race or Faith of those victims - and I have posted as much accordingly.

Just my opinion.

Maybe he doesn't think it's "more offensive" though but people pick their causes. Would you accuse someone who does alot of work for animal charities of not valuing humans as much? It's the same difference imo This "black lawyer" may feel more personally offended by this. You say you "I am a Christian, but I find ISIS beheadings of ANY innocent victims evil and atrocious - no matter what the Nationality, Colour, Race or Faith of those victims" and I don't doubt you mean that for a second but I still hear you speak about Christians more so and there's nothing wrong with that either as it's closer to home for you

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Maybe he doesn't think it's "more offensive" though but people pick their causes. Would you accuse someone who does alot of work for animal charities of not valuing humans as much? It's the same difference imo This "black lawyer" may feel more personally offended by this. You say you "I am a Christian, but I find ISIS beheadings of ANY innocent victims evil and atrocious - no matter what the Nationality, Colour, Race or Faith of those victims" and I don't doubt you mean that for a second but I still hear you speak about Christians more so and there's nothing wrong with that either as it's closer to home for you

Fair point Niamh.