[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Livia

You can always tell a vegetarian, Jess. They're the ones who can't get the lid off the pickle jar.

I don't get it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I don't get it.

It means they have no strength.

[armand.kay]

How is it going? I never actually made a concerted effort to go vegan I kind of went a week with no meat or dairy and was woah that was easy. I wasn't really sure how long I would keep it up for but after watching a few vegan youtube channels and some documentaries it became more of an ethical decision and i've kept it up for over a year now.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Today I discovered some of them like to call themselves "flexitarian"

Originally Posted by Jessica.

That is so weird, they are just a person who doesn't eat meat much, that doesn't have a name.

Some of my friends call themselves 'flexitarians' or 'reducetarians' and they just don't buy meat or dairy however if they were to go out for a meal or order food they wont restrict themselves. It's not much but in a world were its the norm to gorge on meat everyday for 3 meals a day, its still something and they're still helping reduce the suffering of animals and the damage to the environment that the meet and dairy industry cause.

[Marsh.]

How are they reducing the suffering of animals?

The same animals are being killed.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How are they reducing the suffering of animals?

The same animals are being killed.

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

[lewis111]

You can't really think animals Being bred purely to be looked up them slaughtered is as natural as a lion or whatever killing an animal in the wild
There's nothing natural about how humans get their meat

I doubt I go be vegetarian or vegan but I'm still a massive hypocrite and defend the cause

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

How is it going? I never actually made a concerted effort to go vegan I kind of went a week with no meat or dairy and was woah that was easy. I wasn't really sure how long I would keep it up for but after watching a few vegan youtube channels and some documentaries it became more of an ethical decision and i've kept it up for over a year now.

It's good so far while I've been at home but tomorrow is going to be Day 6 and I'm going for lunch at my boyfriends parents house. I'm a bit worried because they don't really understand vegetarianism and I hope they don't lie to me by saying something doesn't have animal stuff I'm it when it does.

I have been watching lots of documentaries too, it really reinforces the true reason I want to do this and I actually haven't felt any urge to eat animals at all this week, so it should be easy if I can keep that up.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by lewis111

You can't really think animals Being bred purely to be looked up them slaughtered is as natural as a lion or whatever killing an animal in the wild
There's nothing natural about how humans get their meat

I doubt I go be vegetarian or vegan but I'm still a massive hypocrite and defend the cause

Having the knowledge is still good, even if you haven't changed your lifestyle!

[arista]

Well Done Jess.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

How are they reducing the suffering of animals?

The same animals are being killed.

If we all thought like that Marsh,nothing would change, from little acorns mighty oaks grow,every little helps.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by arista

Well Done Jess.

Thank you, young man.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by y.winter

Doesn't suit you this kind of jokes Livia...

I was only mildly teasing her. I'm sure she didn't take offence. Can't believe I'm explaining myself over such a stupid joke.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

Theres not as much demand for meet and dairy because they're not having it as much as usual, if everybody in Britain decided to only eat meet once a day the meet industry would be shook. Its all about little changes that make a big difference.

Obviously if everyone in Britain did that it would be affected.

We're not talking about that though. What actual difference does some people being vegetarian make to the meat industry? Not a jot.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

If we all thought like that Marsh,nothing would change, from little acorns mighty oaks grow,every little helps.

It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

One person making a change actually does make a difference and maybe that one person can inspire others to make a change too. I was inspired by someone much younger than me who it's way less easy for and here I am not eating animals just like her. Think about how many kilos of meat people eat in a month or year or decade? That's a lot of animals. And imagine one person stopped and then another who heard from them stopped etc.. That's less demand for the supply.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

I don't think we are naturally entitalled to anything,we just take what we want ,not many really care about the consequences ,I mean look at the plastic in the ocean now killing the sealife.all that because we are entitalled? I dont think so.

[y.winter]

If people would've given up on many ideas just because "one person can't make a change", we wouldn't have progressed as a society like we do...

Human rights, general elections, revolutions, recycling - it comes in any aspect of life you could thing of. It doesn't do any wrong supporting good causes, so why look for excuses...

[AnnieK]

I was vegetarian as a kid....because my mum was. She actually got really poorly (she was badly anaemic due to another medical issue) and so after 10 years started eating meat again. I only really eat chicken and fish...no red meat but because I don't like the taste. I would love to give it a go again but working full time and having a 7 year old that has a million evening activities means that I cant be arsed cooking different things at dinner time and I really do believe kids need to eat meat to get a full balanced diet

[y.winter]

For the record, plant based diet is a balanced diet (from birth) and has been confirmed as such by the World Health Organization.
It's a mix of rooted misconception, poor nutrition education and old cultural conventions that keeps people clueless about handling a planet based diet.
I'm not sure why the "unbalanced diet" argument is always brought up, but people wouldn't even tackle this subject and won't even consider it as a concern, even in the slightest, when looking on the animal-based diet. Hospitals, obesity, diabetes, atherosclerosis - it's filled with people living on a so-called "balanced" diet that consists animal-based products.

[caprimint]

I don't like the "we were made to eat meat!" argument, I mean who says? And so what if that's true anyway? I'm sure there are many things that we should do but we don't because it's a personal preference, like who actually gives a ****

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't think we are naturally entitalled to anything,we just take what we want ,not many really care about the consequences ,I mean look at the plastic in the ocean now killing the sealife.all that because we are entitalled? I dont think so.

Of course we are. There's a food chain for a reason. Some animals entire purpose is to provide food for other living creatures.

Poisoning the ocean with plastic is something else entirely. Stop arguing back with something completely irrelevant.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

I don't like the "we were made to eat meat!" argument, I mean who says? And so what if that's true anyway? I'm sure there are many things that we should do but we don't because it's a personal preference, like who actually gives a ****

Personal preference is fine.

Using that personal preference to say "I'm doing what's right!" is something else.

[Jessica.]

Marsh, why are you so passionate about this? Nobody told you to stop eating meat. Also, watch a documentary, maybe. You could watch Rotten on Netflix or Earthlings.

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Obviously if everyone in Britain did that it would be affected.

We're not talking about that though. What actual difference does some people being vegetarian make to the meat industry? Not a jot.

More and more people are going veggie and its becoming less aline, the meat and dairy industry have had a sight decrease in profit, companies are now investing more into plant based alternative. I believe a difference is being made its just not gonna happen overnight.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It doesn't though.

Humans enjoy meat and will continue to as they are naturally entitled to.

The way in which we get that meat may no longer be "natural" but there's all kinds of things that are no longer done naturally as in the past and are fundamentally a part of being human.

Everyone has the choice what they want to do what they don't want to do, and what they like to eat and what they don't like to eat. But let's not exaggerate.

Why are humans are entitled to enslave, abuse and slaughter other being? What gives us that right? Because we're smarter?

The way we get meat is not only unnatural its also heartless and immoral. People need to realise that when they choose to buy meat they're supporting the suffering that farm animals are put through and they're supporting the damage to the environment the meat and dairy industry is causing.