[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by vesavius

The thread is clearly about this discussion. This discussion is surely what Ali wanted to create by wearing it? The discussion being had is directly related to the show.

Police someone else, I'm not interested.

I can't stop discussions I just suggested because it then turns away from Ali wearing the t shirt to the actual war itself. It's a rabbit hole

Originally Posted by arista

You Are Wrong


Ali
went Political Illegal

Ok.......

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

I can't stop discussions

I know.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by vesavius

I know.

Good lad

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Good lad

something something *insert last word*

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Livia

I suspect this tee shirt was worn with no political conviction at all. So many people making tenuous political statements on the Israel/Hamas conflict don't know the first thing about the conflict.

Yeah I think you could be right.

I know very little and it dates back a long time that it's complicated.

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Livia

I suspect this tee shirt was worn with no political conviction at all. So many people making tenuous political statements on the Israel/Hamas conflict don't know the first thing about the conflict.

While I agree that she has no political convictions past performatively showing her chums that she is on the 'right side of history', she was doubtless well aware of the significance of the symbol, as were the BB production team.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by vesavius

While I agree that she has no political convictions past performatively showing her chums that she is on the 'right side of history', she was doubtless well aware of the significance of the symbol, as were the BB production team.

She definitely was. I'll admit it went right over my head but Ali has openly said she wants to get into activism so I'm quite sure she knew what the symbol meant politically

[Livia]

I agree she knew what the symbolism was and that it would be provocative. That doesn't mean she has a clue about what she's supporting, or why.

[MTVN]

I mean this discussion just shows why ITV had to edit it. A lot of people are complaining about them censoring things or being cowardly etc. but ultimately they're a major broadcaster with a reputation to protect and guidelines to follow. That has to come above all else really and regardless of your views on the conflict it's not a hill worth dying on for ITV

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I mean this discussion just shows why ITV had to edit it. A lot of people are complaining about them censoring things or being cowardly etc. but ultimately they're a major broadcaster with a reputation to protect and guidelines to follow. That has to come above all else really and regardless of your views on the conflict it's not a hill worth dying on for ITV

I've noticed ITV care more about reputation than BBC.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I mean this discussion just shows why ITV had to edit it. A lot of people are complaining about them censoring things or being cowardly etc. but ultimately they're a major broadcaster with a reputation to protect and guidelines to follow. That has to come above all else really and regardless of your views on the conflict it's not a hill worth dying on for ITV

There's rare excuses for censorship, and imo this isn't one of them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Livia

I agree she knew what the symbolism was and that it would be provocative. That doesn't mean she has a clue about what she's supporting, or why.

She is just bangwaggoning

What is worrying is I get that a misguided 20 year old student would do it but a 40 year old women?

She has shown countless times she is not the full shilling

[arista]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

She is just bangwaggoning

What is worrying is I get that a misguided 20 year old student would do it but a 40 year old women?

She has shown countless times she is not the full shilling

Yes Trouble Maker


She knew full well
when she took that political T-shirt in.

[GlitterUK]

Controversial t shirts -= more airtime/scandal/press
Really ironic her wearing that and the person she hasn't bothered to get to know is Palestinian.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by GlitterUK

Controversial t shirts -= more airtime/scandal/press
Really ironic her wearing that and the person she hasn't bothered to get to know is Palestinian.

I've seen this said online a few times and it's a bizarre mindset. She supports Palestine which means she has to get along with any and every Palestinian person she meets, otherwise her stance is insincere? That's an absolute reach.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I've seen this said online a few times and it's a bizarre mindset. She supports Palestine which means she has to get along with any and every Palestinian person she meets, otherwise her stance is insincere? That's an absolute reach.

Didn't you know? As someone who supports gay rights I have to like every single gay person I meet otherwise my support means nothing. That's how this works

[arista]

LBC is going to debate
Ali's T-Shirt in the next hour

[Beso]

She would probably allow your children's genitals to be mutilated as well if she had her way.