[Beso]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dai...t-Muslims.html


Should this be allowed to happen?

I think not.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dai...t-Muslims.html


Should this be allowed to happen?

I think not.

When I saw that picture in the paper the woman had her face completely covered, but she is showing her face in that one?

And no I don't think it's appropriate. I don't know whether the mention of her crucifix being removed and not eating bacon etc is correct, but if proven then that family should not be allowed to foster at all.

[Oliver_W]

When muslim children are put into foster care, they're generally put with muslim parents. If the foster agency (or whoever) can't find a Christian family, it doesn't matter as much because Christians and Atheists are generally more similar than Christians and muslims.

[_baileys_]

It is terrible apparently the adoptive family do not even speak english!

I understand that a child needs love attention etc however the basics of speaking english would be a good start how can you teach a 5 year old who can't understand you and vice versa.. I do hope they find that poor 5 year old a new family really soon

[user104658]

Originally Posted by _baileys_

It is terrible apparently the adoptive family do not even speak english!

"Muslim foster carers told Christian girl, five, that Christmas and Easter are stupid and European women are alcoholics after taking away her crucifix and stopping her from eating bacon"

But also, they don't speak English .


Sooo. OK in general, I would say that vulnerable and already confused kids going into foster care should be placed with a family that is a good match for them... that much is common sense. So placing a child of one (or no) religion with a family that is going to enforce a different religion is an obvious massive error.

That aside, however, I suspect that this article is rather exaggerated?

[_baileys_]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Muslim foster carers told Christian girl, five, that Christmas and Easter are stupid and European women are alcoholics after taking away her crucifix and stopping her from eating bacon"

But also, they don't speak English .


Sooo. OK in general, I would say that vulnerable and already confused kids going into foster care should be placed with a family that is a good match for them... that much is common sense. So placing a child of one (or no) religion with a family that is going to enforce a different religion is an obvious massive error.

That aside, however, I suspect that this article is rather exaggerated?

Indeed it could well be the home is temporary until a permanent home is found..

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by _baileys_

Indeed it could well be the home is temporary until a permanent home is found..

Kids that are fostered from the age of five to young adulthood, on average will live with 25 different families. Most kids don't end up going through an adoption process... most, from the age of five up, never find a permanent home. I honestly believe a modern style childrens home is more stable for lone children.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

"Muslim foster carers told Christian girl, five, that Christmas and Easter are stupid and European women are alcoholics after taking away her crucifix and stopping her from eating bacon"

But also, they don't speak English .


Sooo. OK in general, I would say that vulnerable and already confused kids going into foster care should be placed with a family that is a good match for them... that much is common sense. So placing a child of one (or no) religion with a family that is going to enforce a different religion is an obvious massive error.

That aside, however, I suspect that this article is rather exaggerated?

typical. the left always choose to ignore all stories that dont fit or suit their narrow liberal agenda....every single argument they simply blame the daily mail, just so pathetic

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

typical. the left always choose to ignore all stories that dont fit or suit their narrow liberal agenda....every single argument they simply blame the daily mail, just so pathetic

Congratulations on clearly not reading past the first few posts of the thread .

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by _baileys_

It is terrible apparently the adoptive family do not even speak english!

I understand that a child needs love attention etc however the basics of speaking english would be a good start how can you teach a 5 year old who can't understand you and vice versa.. I do hope they find that poor 5 year old a new family really soon

I should think they do speak English. They just aren't speaking English in the home.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

I should think they do speak English. They just aren't speaking English in the home.

That demonstrates a lack of consideration for the best interests of the child from the foster family. Don't foster parents get any training!

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That demonstrates a lack of consideration for the best interests of the child from the foster family. Don't foster parents get any training!

Yes, they do get a lot of training but like all carers, sometimes people slip through the net. I don't know how the hell this happened, but I doubt those women portrayed themselves as strict Muslims when going through the fostering process. There's a lot of money to be made fostering. Some foster parents are doing this for all the right reasons but others see it as a lucrative business.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yes, they do get a lot of training but like all carers, sometimes people slip through the net. I don't know how the hell this happened, but I doubt those women portrayed themselves as strict Muslims when going through the fostering process. There's a lot of money to be made fostering. Some foster parents are doing this for all the right reasons but others see it as a lucrative business.

I know and my heart breaks for all those poor foster children - what a way to start your life. I agree with the comment that a good quality stable childrens' home would be better for these children. They need consistency and stability as well as good care and hopefully some love.

[Brillopad]

I don't think any non-Muslim child should be placed with a Muslim family if that family is incapable of separating their religion from their job - their professional and moral responsibility of providing the care needed in the best intersts of that child. It is not an opportunity for indoctrination.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I don't think any non-Muslim child should be placed with a Muslim family if that family is incapable of separating their religion from their job - their professional and moral responsibility of providing the care needed in the best intersts of that child. It is not an opportunity for indoctrination.

I agree a Foster carer should absolutely not try to force religious beliefs on a child they're caring for and if they're incapable of doing this then they shouldn't be accepted as a Foster parent. I do agree with TS though that parts of the story contradict itself so I would be skeptical of the accuracy of the story

[DemolitionRed]

No, its not acceptable. I know a lot of Muslim children are being fostered out to none Muslim families because of the refugee crisis so I'm really surprised these Muslim foster parents didn't get a refugee child. Its normally the case that black couples can't foster a white child and a white couple can't foster a black child (which in some instances is wrong). A child's culture and religion MUST be considered through the process of fostering.

[Cal.]

I wonder if the child values a family and a roof over their head over bacon. Hmm.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Cal.

I wonder if the child values a family and a roof over their head over bacon. Hmm.

I think the child would value a family that actually attempted to communicate with them!

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Cal.

I wonder if the child values a family and a roof over their head over bacon. Hmm.

yeah the bacon thing is a bit stupid and it's another thing that makes me question the accuracy of the story

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yeah the bacon thing is a bit stupid and it's another thing that makes me question the accuracy of the story

I'm questioning its validity too. I'm wondering if the child is mixed race Middle Eastern but was born here. There's something odd about this story. If though it is correct and the child was born and raised as a Christian, this just shouldn't have happened.

[waterhog]

Originally Posted by parmnion

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dai...t-Muslims.html


Should this be allowed to happen?

I think not.

just see this story on wrightstuff paper review - shame on those involved.

[user104658]

Yeah to be fair, I think it's worth pointing out that the social services, fostering and care system is pretty much a mess from the top down, in hundreds of different ways. The scale of the problem overall is absolutely gargantuan.

[Kizzy]

I'm in shock... someone has it in their heart to open their family to a child in need and straight away there are those who take that a a negative.

Shameful.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm in shock... someone has it in their heart to open their family to a child in need and straight away there are those who take that a a negative.

Shameful.

Or open their bank accounts! Let's be honest we know it goes on and in this case there are suggestions they were less than compassionate.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7916071.html

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/br...stian-into-two

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm in shock... someone has it in their heart to open their family to a child in need and straight away there are those who take that a a negative.

Shameful.

I've got to disagree on this. Social workers have to make decisions in the best interest of the child. If it was just a case of someone opening up their family unit to a child in need, it would be easy but its much more complex than that. Language, religion, culture and even race are carefully looked at (by most) when it comes to fostering a child and rightly so because children need as much familiarity as we can possibly give them and on top of that, those children are not finding a permanent family but a temporary one.

I'm presently working with refugee kids. Many of them arrive here with no living family, many don't speak the language. Some of the younger children get fostered out to English families because there just aren't enough people from their own heritage that want to foster. Those kids do suffer further trauma because there's no familiarity. Of course its important that the child learns our language but we need to understand that these children aren't just Syrian, African or Iraqi by language but by culture and religion too.

As a kid we moved house and my parents binned everything and purchased all new furniture. I had a meltdown over the loss of an unfamiliar red lampshade. Of course, it wasn't just the lampshade, that was just the trigger. If the loss of familiar furniture can affect a child, imagine what its like for children who lose all familiarity. If only it was so simple as the love of a family. The reality is, its so much more.