[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

That demonstrates a lack of consideration for the best interests of the child from the foster family. Don't foster parents get any training!

Yes, they do get a lot of training but like all carers, sometimes people slip through the net. I don't know how the hell this happened, but I doubt those women portrayed themselves as strict Muslims when going through the fostering process. There's a lot of money to be made fostering. Some foster parents are doing this for all the right reasons but others see it as a lucrative business.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Yes, they do get a lot of training but like all carers, sometimes people slip through the net. I don't know how the hell this happened, but I doubt those women portrayed themselves as strict Muslims when going through the fostering process. There's a lot of money to be made fostering. Some foster parents are doing this for all the right reasons but others see it as a lucrative business.

I know and my heart breaks for all those poor foster children - what a way to start your life. I agree with the comment that a good quality stable childrens' home would be better for these children. They need consistency and stability as well as good care and hopefully some love.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

I know and my heart breaks for all those poor foster children - what a way to start your life. I agree with the comment that a good quality stable childrens' home would be better for these children. They need consistency and stability as well as good care and hopefully some love.

You hear all these horror stories from Childrens homes too though (and nursing homes etc) The people working in these places need to be vetted properly and they need a good monitoring system

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You hear all these horror stories from Childrens homes too though (and nursing homes etc) The people working in these places need to be vetted properly and they need a good monitoring system

Oh I agree. Very close vetting and monitoring should be a given. I just think stability is so important. I have heard several ex-foster children say that one of the worst aspects was constantly being moved around and never being able to settle.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You hear all these horror stories from Childrens homes too though (and nursing homes etc) The people working in these places need to be vetted properly and they need a good monitoring system

The scary thing is that they ARE quite well vetted. My wife is working with a charity that helps vulnerable youngsters as one of the (many, haha) side activities that she does alongside University, and she had to have a completely separate round of vetting and long interview process for working with vulnerable youngsters (even having already been through vetting for studying as a Mental Health Nurse).

I guess, sadly, the problem is... just because someone hasn't done anything in the past - or hasn't been caught doing anything in the past - doesn't mean that they aren't capable of it in future. There's only so much that vetting can do.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Oh I agree. Very close vetting and monitoring should be a given. I just think stability is so important. I have heard several ex-foster children say that one of the worst aspects was constantly being moved around and never being able to settle.

Yeah I can imagine, it must be awful for a child to grow up like that.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The scary thing is that they ARE quite well vetted. My wife is working with a charity that helps vulnerable youngsters as one of the (many, haha) side activities that she does alongside University, and she had to have a completely separate round of vetting and long interview process for working with vulnerable youngsters (even having already been through vetting for studying as a Mental Health Nurse).

I guess, sadly, the problem is... just because someone hasn't done anything in the past - or hasn't been caught doing anything in the past - doesn't mean that they aren't capable of it in future. There's only so much that vetting can do.

Yeah I know there really is no fool proof system, what kind of scum goes into that line of work to abuse the most vulnerable in our society though

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah I can imagine, it must be awful for a child to grow up like that.



Yeah I know there really is no fool proof system, what kind of scum goes into that line of work to abuse the most vulnerable in our society though

Predators?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Predators?

I wasn't really referring to that type of abuse, just people being cruel and uncaring towards those they're supposed to be looking after, with the elderly or young people

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

The scary thing is that they ARE quite well vetted. My wife is working with a charity that helps vulnerable youngsters as one of the (many, haha) side activities that she does alongside University, and she had to have a completely separate round of vetting and long interview process for working with vulnerable youngsters (even having already been through vetting for studying as a Mental Health Nurse).

I guess, sadly, the problem is... just because someone hasn't done anything in the past - or hasn't been caught doing anything in the past - doesn't mean that they aren't capable of it in future. There's only so much that vetting can do.

Or who is doing the vetting.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Or who is doing the vetting.

True, but that's only at the final interview stage. These positions all require disclosures and record checks etc. that show there's nothing dodgy in someone's past and those are all done centrally. But... Passing that only means that someone hasn't done anything YET or anything that anyone ever found out about. Every abuser has a "first time", and plenty don't get found out for a long time (some never) and those people will pass the basic criminal records checks and reference checks no problem.