[Amy Jade]

I think Chanelle got just as much backlash as Raph in this thread, but the reason he got more (and deservedly so imo) is because he is a self confessed serial cheat who calls others others *****s. It's totally hypocritical.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Reindeerlores

I don't think he's a bad guy. Hence why this "Everybody just hates Raph!" response from some people whenever he's criticised for anything is unnecessary.

Not you specifically but you'd think Raph murdered someone reading through this thread.

Originally Posted by Mrs Deagle

I think Chanelle got just as much backlash as Raph in this thread, but the reason he got more (and deservedly so imo) is because he is a self confessed serial cheat who calls others others *****s. It's totally hypocritical.

I just read through the thread. The whole thing is anti-Raph with a few "oh and that Chanelle" in there. Raph's case of being a hypocrite might be worse I get that, but she made the original tweet this is about and is hypocritical in her own ways!

And I don't mean for everyone to hate on Chanelle too. Just be more civil towards Raph like it is with Chantelle's bit of backlash.

I think it's a case of TIBB hypocrisy, ironically.

[Morgan.]

Tbh I'm with Jersey on this. All of the Raph hate is a little unnecessary when he wasn't the only one to make the comment. And I've seen TiBB'ers make worse comments so

[Marsh.]

Well a lot of people on TiBB know Raph from the forum or even off the forum so of course they're going to have more to say about him than the other one whose name I can't even remember.

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Mariah_Carey

Well a lot of people on TiBB know Raph from the forum or even off the forum so of course they're going to have more to say about him than the other one whose name I can't even remember.

But that isn't really the case when it comes to positive aspects.. Chanelle gets way more praise in things they're both involved in but way less hate in things they're both involved in. Outside of the initial shock and early stages of BBUK18 you really don't even see too many nice things said about Raph in general tbh. Even his own question thread started to get more on the controversial / negative side. Anything positive about Raph is almost all just in the Raph fan thread but the hate comes in full force all over the forum.

This conversation is rinse and repeat really... and usually comes down to hypocrisy or just simply different taste & opinion.. but I'd rather defend my favorites on these shows than to bash my least favorite.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by JerseyXmas

But that isn't really the case when it comes to positive aspects.. Chanelle gets way more praise in things they're both involved in but way less hate in things they're both involved in. Outside of the initial shock and early stages of BBUK18 you really don't even see too many nice things said about Raph in general tbh. Even his own question thread started to get more on the controversial / negative side. Anything positive about Raph is almost all just in the Raph fan thread but the hate comes in full force all over the forum.

This conversation is rinse and repeat really... and usually comes down to hypocrisy or just simply different taste & opinion.. but I'd rather defend my favorites on these shows than to bash my least favorite.

Or you're talking about two different groups of members.

"Hate in full force" is such an exaggeration.

I've seen a lot of negativity towards Chanelle too tbh, and in that case I'm not surprised as from what I've seen of her she's a negative Nancy herself.

[JerseyWins]

Eh "full force" probably is an exaggeration and this thread specifically isn't even the worst. Plus some of the hate in this thread and others might just be somewhat joking, idk, but still there's mostly negative discussion when it comes to Raph (outside of the fan thread).

And considering everything about him, he truly doesn't seem bad.

[Marsh.]

He voted for Trump, cheats on everyone, bullies Lucas and is friends with Chanelle.

That's enough for me!

[RileyH]

What the **** is going on in here on this day

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by Sleigh Dockley

What the **** is going on in here on this day

Don't worry about it

[JerseyWins]

Originally Posted by JerseyXmas

Raph's a good guy. That is all.

I guess this wasn't all then.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Black Christmas

I don't know, someone who has cheated on every single person they've been in a relationship with does sound like a pretty bad person to me.

Doesn't mean they are a bad person at all, of course it's not something that I agree with but there can be many reasons for this...we don't know any of the circumstances. However basing it off of experience of a friend who I know has cheated, the above sentence I definitely don't agree with either

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Reindeerlores

I don't WANT to hate Raph. I don't hate him. I've only ever gotten along well with him when we've spoken on here, but I'm not gonna put blinders up when he acts ****ty just because of that.

And yes, Chanelle's as much of a hypocrite as he is. I assume the thread title focuses on Raph specifically because of his own admission of cheating multiple times. Of course they should both be criticised equally but if someone's made a thread about a comment Raph made, I'll respond with my thoughts on the comment Raph made.

The thing is I'm sure if you looked through all your fave's tweets we could find some 'hypocritical' comments too, it's not something that is so uncommon that you see one word and instantly judge/dislike them for

[caprimint]

And instead of going through and quoting, I'll just say @ all of Jerseys posts

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Mrs Deagle

I think Chanelle got just as much backlash as Raph in this thread, but the reason he got more (and deservedly so imo) is because he is a self confessed serial cheat who calls others others *****s. It's totally hypocritical.

No she didn't People have barely even discussed her and also the thread is made about Raph despite him just repeating something she said.

She is as much of a hypocrite when she has spoken about 'empowering women', to then write this comment and on top of it all wrote a tweet about 'being the best hoe' that you can. She's like a triple hypocrite, if you wanna put it like that.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by caprimincepie

Doesn't mean they are a bad person at all, of course it's not something that I agree with but there can be many reasons for this...we don't know any of the circumstances. However basing it off of experience of a friend who I know has cheated, the above sentence I definitely don't agree with either

Oh, an instance of cheating doesn't make someone a bad person.

Cheating on every partner you've ever had is something completely different. A victim of circumstances every single time? I don't think so.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Mariah_Carey

Oh, an instance of cheating doesn't make someone a bad person.

Cheating on every partner you've ever had is something completely different. A victim of circumstances every single time? I don't think so.

We don't know everything though (or even if what he said was true and it was to get on the show, just saying). All I can base it on is what I know/have seen of him and I wouldn't call him a 'bad' person, what goes on in somebody's private life doesn't really change my view

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by caprimincepie

No she didn't People have barely even discussed her and also the thread is made about Raph despite him just repeating something she said.

She is as much of a hypocrite when she has spoken about 'empowering women', to then write this comment and on top of it all wrote a tweet about 'being the best hoe' that you can. She's like a triple hypocrite, if you wanna put it like that.

I haven't seen anyone disagree Chanelle is a hypocritw too but the thread is specifically about a guy who (true or not) has cheated on every single person he has dated calling somebody a *****.

I can and will judge him for that.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Mrs Deagle

I haven't seen anyone disagree Chanelle is a hypocritw too but the thread is specifically about a guy who (true or not) has cheated on every single person he has dated calling somebody a *****.

I can and will judge him for that.

Sure, my point is why is it Raph being targeted when Chanelle was the one who actually wrote the comment?

Simple answer: Chanelle was a forum favourite and people want every little chance to take a dig at Raph that they can possibly find.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Mrs Deagle

I haven't seen anyone disagree Chanelle is a hypocritw too but the thread is specifically about a guy who (true or not) has cheated on every single person he has dated calling somebody a *****.

I can and will judge him for that.

Amy relax, take a deep breath and calm down please

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by caprimincepie

Sure, my point is why is it Raph being targeted when Chanelle was the one who actually wrote the comment?

Simple answer: Chanelle was a forum favourite and people want every little chance to take a dig at Raph that they can possibly find.

It's because he is the one who is a cheat himself one would guess.

I can't see anyone defending Chanelle either but sone are defending Raph and the old 'any chance for a dig' is tired now, you and others use it anytime Raph is spoken about in a negative light, I was a fan of him in the house but if he does something like call a girl a ***** for taking a picture with someone then he's asking for it to be honest.

[Nicky91]

i am defending raph because he's my friend

[Black Dagger]

Such a good friend that he's ****ed off the forum and doesn't acknowledge you.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Mrs Deagle

It's because he is the one who is a cheat himself one would guess.

I can't see anyone defending Chanelle either but sone are defending Raph and the old 'any chance for a dig' is tired now, you and others use it anytime Raph is spoken about in a negative light, I was a fan of him in the house but if he does something like call a girl a ***** for taking a picture with someone then he's asking for it to be honest.

Aaaand like I've just said, Chanelle has also proven herself to be a hypocrite just in a different way. It's the same difference. Some people are choosing to target Raph because they already dislike him and just ignoring Chanelle's initial comment. You claim to have been a 'fan' of him in the house, but all I recall you doing was slating him and only seeing you write negative comments about him, just having his name in your sig because he was Chanelle's friend.

[Morgan.]

Originally Posted by Kylie Christmas

Such a good friend that he's ****ed off the forum and doesn't acknowledge you.

Tbf he only left because a lot of people take anything he says and turn it against him and dig at him. Keyboard warriors I believe they're called. And whilst I disagree with calling Rita a *****, I think the amount of hate is just unnecessary and something I'd be ashamed of if I was doing. As I said earlier there are people on here who have said much worse things than this.