[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Oh don't be daft of course it is.

It isn't though because it's the norm... whereas in truth it's really dangerous.

[caprimint]

Omg congrats Kizzy That's amazing, I don't think I could even go a week

How are you feeling?? Has it been hard at all and have you wanted to eat any sort of food?

[caprimint]

God y’all are so negative

[caprimint]

But that's the point isn't it? Kizzy isn't planning on doing it forever so it's not really as bad as y'all are making it out to be?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by caprimint

But that's the point isn't it? Kizzy isn't planning on doing it forever so it's not really as bad as y'all are making it out to be?

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by caprimint

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

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It's up to her what she does with her body but if she is pre diabetic or something she needs a long term fix, that's just my opinion

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by caprimint

As far as I'm aware Kizzy isn't doing it just for weight loss, but for a variety of other reasons too as she mentioned in her earlier posts.

I'm also pretty sure she's aware of what will work long-term (hence why she said it won't be for too long), but imo there's absolutely nothing wrong with doing things like this if they have a quicker effect and help the situation?

Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.
Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Thanks! That's exactly right, it's short term restriction of certain food groups, sugars and carbs to reboot your system to not crave them to function any longer.

Reduce inflammation and weight on sore joints or remove viceral fat from round organs.

For what it’s worth .. this is something I actually fancy trying !!

How long are we talking to reduce my love of bread and sweet stuff ??


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[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

That's kind of the point, it's a band aid rather than a life time fix, if you want to keep weight off in the long term you need to devise a way you can eat every day and incorporate the occasional splurge without putting it back on, and that includes including some exercise to get your heart rate up and burn calories
but meh if she want to live on juice who am I to argue

Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Of course it's a temporary measure, to rid your body of cravings for sugar, carbs, caffeine.

The real work begins in not reintroducing some foods back into your diet or at least vastly reducing your intake.
And getting motivated to move more.

I agree with the move more, but I think where people fail is avoiding some foods altogether, I think everyone should be able to have a treat as completely cutting out foods is difficult and never works for me anyway

[Marsh.]

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous.

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous.

NOT you thinking a juice cleanse is dangerous when there's the Coronavirus to worry about!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

NOT you thinking a juice cleanse is dangerous when there's the Coronavirus to worry about!

I never said it was either way.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by caprimint

But that's the point isn't it? Kizzy isn't planning on doing it forever so it's not really as bad as y'all are making it out to be?

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous.

Originally Posted by caprimint

NOT you thinking a juice cleanse is dangerous when there's the Coronavirus to worry about!

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said it was either way.

There you go.

The context hasn't changed. Nor has me CLEARLY stating what I was saying.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous.

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term.

Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Right so nothing to do with the thread topic ... obviously some things are dangerous even if done short term. Thanks for stating the obvious

I responded to a post in the thread, so yes it was.

Obvious to you, clearly not the person I was talking to.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

So you were talking abut juicing... you were mocking me earlier for 'assuming' you were?

Caprimints comment you quoted specifically referred to me and juicing :/
As I said you could have at any time clarified that you did or didn't feel it was dangerous short term and the conversation go from there...but you chose not to.

Anyhoo your I've pandered to the pedant in you too long, I do not want this thread closing because you failed to get your point across adequately.

You assumed I said juicing was dangerous. I said I wasn't referring to juicing when you first asked me.

You completely ignoring that and accusing me of not answering the question is your problem, not mine.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Tbf, something doesn't have to be done forever or longterm to be dangerous.

Originally Posted by caprimint

NOT you thinking a juice cleanse is dangerous when there's the Coronavirus to worry about!

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I never said it was either way.

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Go on... in all seriousness what do you think is dangerous about this juice cleanse surely you have some thing to back up such a claim?... something I can counter with my experience of it.

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Again... I never said it was. I was disputing the claim that something can't be dangerous if it's only short term.

Yes, I'M the pedant.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You assumed I said juicing was dangerous. I said I wasn't referring to juicing when you first asked me.

You completely ignoring that and accusing me of not answering the question is your problem, not mine.










Yes, I'M the pedant.

You haven posted the comment you reacted to which specifically named me and mentioned juicing... whatever.

I'm glad we agree then

[Kizzy]

Update, I've done a month so added in a light evening meal, had scrambled egg yesterday and had a thin turkey steak and a punnet of mushrooms tonight mmmmm

[user104658]

In all seriousness - why would one need to juice cleanse in order to cut carbs and sugar? I generally don't eat empty "glutenny" carbs like bread, pasta, etc. and keep refined sugars low because I do get joint inflammation (shoulders and wrists, mostly) that seems to be drastically reduced when I keep refined carbs away. I've also reduced (though not stopped, too tasty) red meat consumption lately. But I'm not sure what the benefit of the juice cleanse is, over and above just cutting the junk.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

In all seriousness - why would one need to juice cleanse in order to cut carbs and sugar? I generally don't eat empty "glutenny" carbs like bread, pasta, etc. and keep refined sugars low because I do get joint inflammation (shoulders and wrists, mostly) that seems to be drastically reduced when I keep refined carbs away. I've also reduced (though not stopped, too tasty) red meat consumption lately. But I'm not sure what the benefit of the juice cleanse is, over and above just cutting the junk.

Again.. I did the juice cleanse to remove my cravings for sugar and carbs, I removed all sugars so my body used the viseral fat inside me as fuel as I have fatty liver disease so for me that is beneficial.
It will also help me return from my pre diabetic state quicker

One may not need to do it ...for me personally it has helped me immensely already.

[Vicky.]

Still doing this kizzy? I remember you talking about this years back..

It still makes not much sense to me, however, thats because I do total water fasts instead, and the whole point of that is to get your body into ketosis, which burns fat FAST and leaves alone muscle largely. Where this, would not have that benefit, as the sugar would likely be too high to get into ketosis to start with.

But it seems to help those who try it so...meh. Also I have found, the psychological benefits of fasting in general are amazing. Its quite hard to explain, but I expect those who have done fasts understand what I mean...everythings so..clear. Its weird.

Loads of stuff thats actually rather healthy is written off as a dangerous fad. I know this from my research into water fasting, people see it as starving yourself, which is sort of right, however, you always stop it when you get a sign of true hunger, which oddly, tends not to be til a few WEEKS after starting it, as funnily enough, our bodies are not designed to be fed around the clock, and are actually able to go very long periods of time with no food at all (average body can go about 40 days with nothing bar water..much longer if overweight). It actually fixes a lot of health issues too, which was the main reason I tried it. Didn't fix me, but did lose 2 stone in a week and a half, 5 pounds of which was water weight as came back immediately, rest stayed off.

Fixes a lot of health stuff because again, our bodies naturally repair themselves with certain stuff (seems to help mostly with stuff like acne, but some people have had success with other illnesses too, my cousins swears his IBS is much better and easier to manage after a fast), and with no food, your body has much less work to do as whole digestive system is dormant, so it can get to work trying to fix issues. Its quite amazing really when you read into it, what our bodies can do if given the chance..