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All hail the Moyesiah
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Personally think we should be careful about broadening the definition of terrorism. If we just call every serious crime an act of terror then we might fail to address the roots of actual terrorism properly - that which is driven by dangerous ideologies. Plus anti-terrorism has it's own set of laws, standards and policing so we don't just want to start applying these to every crime
If there are two silver linings to this horror then it's that no one has died and that this wasn't terrorism (or so it seems for now) because that would have even more awful implications |
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By now, they should say he came out of a Pub/Bar, then into his car. Its in the Times Newspaper |
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Piss orf.
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Was he fleeing an angry mob after clipping someone with his car. He did sound his horn as he drove..
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Hands off my Brick!
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I read that alright, people saying he got stuck and hit someone and the mob started smashing his windows and that's when he started hitting more people ( obviously he shouldn't have been driving in there though)
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Piss orf.
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He must have beeen terrified. 1st thing a thought about when I saw the footage was the 2 soldiers being dragged from their car when they took a wrong turning at an IRA funeral. |
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Remembering Kerry
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Horrific, absolutely horrific.
It's hard to imagine the fear that those witnessing this, and who were injured because of it felt too. Thankfully so far, no loss of life however what number now have massively life changing injuries. |
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George & Alexis Warr!
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more nice between the lines and stricter rules for social gatherings
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The purpose of terror is for us to change how we live which is pretty much what you're advocating. Last time a copper shot someone, a known criminal, gang member and drug dealer, the copper's name was released to the public putting him and his whole family in jeopardy, and he still faces
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Flag shagger.
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The purpose of terror is for us to change how we live which is pretty much what you're advocating. Last time a copper shot someone, a known criminal, gang member and drug dealer, the copper's name was released to the public putting him and his whole family in jeopardy, he had a £10,000 bounty on his head and he still faces a tribunal despite being found not guilty. I wouldn't want more police in that position.
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Owen Jones speaking live on Ch5HD AM show
said he watched the online-only video Then wish he had not. He also stated Online before the Police spoke, People were saying it's a Muslim. So he understands why the Police said The driver was White. |
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Piss orf.
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Looking at that it looks like this was a horrible accident caused by panic on both sides
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Hands off my Brick!
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…this is also why the police publish cautions about stuff said and shown on social media platforms etc…correct/factual information will take time for the officials to put together and get that more accurate picture and in the meantime there is so much speculation which is also very dangerous…I mean, even in mainstream media they’re using descriptives such as ‘ploughed into…’…and that’s quite an citing word…it’s feeling more and more in danger of becoming a ‘lawless society’….
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…anyway, as Niamh said…if it proves to be the case that alcohol was involved in impairing judgement and that person should never have got behind the wheel of their car then there is a huge responsibility and accountability on them for the events that unfolded in terms of others being harmed…
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Piss orf.
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Contributed to it then..let's settle for that.
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All hail the Moyesiah
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No he was Drunk |
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Hands off my Brick!
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He may not have made the decisions he did if he wasn't drunk though and he may not have panicked so quickly, he really ploughed through people when he drove forwards
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Yeah being aware of driving through people and still continuing, while I think still being somewhat explained by "fight or flight", feels more like a blind rage than a panicked "fleeing". Feels more like "red mist" / anger than panic. Of course both can be a fear response.
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