[jaxie]

Where does he get off talking to someone like this?

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-1...-dont-rudeness

So Gary said 'Hey' because he heard his name and couldn't hear the rest, why does that give him the right to talk to him like that? I really don't understand why the producers are letting him do this so much, he's already had one warning.

Gary: "May I finish?"
James: "No you may not."

James: "Even a dog can be taught new tricks." (cackles of laughter in the background)

Wtf.

[Pincho Paxton]

I wish the beginning wasn't missing. We don't hear James mention Gary.

[jessicadanielle]

Omg the way he lectures someone about being rude in the rudest way possible I can't take him anymore. Gary remained so calm, I don't know how he does it.

When James said he feels like a babysitter... Only because he gets on his high horse like he has to guide Gary's behaviour. He doesn't have to, he just does.

Can't wait to see die hard James fans try and justify this one.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

Omg the way he lectures someone about being rude in the rudest way possible I can't take him anymore. Gary remained so calm, I don't know how he does it.

When James said he feels like a babysitter... Only because he gets on his high horse like he has to guide Gary's behaviour. He doesn't have to, he just does.

Can't wait to see die hard James fans try and justify this one.

fgs, I like Gary way more than James, but put it like this:

If someone kept rudely butting into your conversation by shouting 'hey, hey, hey' and you had asked them to stop doing it countless times because it bugs you, wouldn't you get exasperated and annoyed? It's not a case of justifying anything, it's a case of not always blaming everything on one person and turning a blind eye to any fault in the other person.
Gary shouldn't be exempt from any blame because he's Gary. It's so patronizing.

I wonder too why it didn't show Gary butting in, just James reacting?

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by jet

fgs, I like Gary way more than James, but put it like this:

If someone kept rudely butting into your conversation by shouting 'hey, hey, hey' and you had asked them to stop doing it countless times because it bugs you, wouldn't you get exasperated and annoyed? It's not a case of justifying anything, it's a case of not always blaming everything on one person and turning a blind eye to any fault in the other person.
Gary shouldn't be exempt from any blame because he's Gary. It's so patronizing.

I wonder too why it didn't show Gary butting in, just James reacting?

I've had a conversation with you before about the fact that I acknowledge that Gary isn't faultless. Nothing in my comment above suggested that Gary is exempt from any blame, so why are you assuming so? Dunno why you felt like you had to "fgs" me when I never claimed Gary is blameless here or ever before.

Gary might have been rude, but for James to have a go at someone for being rude in such a rude and offensive (name calling like the babysitter stuff) manner is just laughable, hypocritical and ******s me right off. Is it not?! This is the point I was making.

[jet]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I've had a conversation with you before about the fact that I acknowledge that Gary isn't faultless. Nothing in my comment above suggested that Gary is exempt from any blame, so why are you assuming so? Dunno why you felt like you had to "fgs" me when I never claimed Gary is blameless here or ever before.

Gary might have been rude, but for James to have a go at someone for being rude in such a rude and offensive (name calling like the babysitter stuff) manner is just laughable, hypocritical and ******s me right off. Is it not?! This is the point I was making.

Because in your post you pointed out all that James had done wrong and mentioned nothing that might have prompted his exasperation. It bothers me that people always leave out what Gary does and only focus on what James does and I'm afraid you got the brunt of my annoyance, so I apologize for that, as you are by no means the most guilty of doing that. Sorry!

[jessicadanielle]

Originally Posted by jet

Because in your post you pointed out all that James had done wrong and mentioned nothing that might have prompted his exasperation. It bothers me that people always leave out what Gary does and only focus on what James does and I'm afraid you got the brunt of my annoyance, so I apologize for that, as you are by no means the most guilty of doing that. Sorry!

No worries it annoys me too when it seems like people pick a favourite and turn everything to be in favour of them, or pick a least favourite and only focus on their bad points. I didn't mean to do that above.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by jessicadanielle

I've had a conversation with you before about the fact that I acknowledge that Gary isn't faultless. Nothing in my comment above suggested that Gary is exempt from any blame, so why are you assuming so? Dunno why you felt like you had to "fgs" me when I never claimed Gary is blameless here or ever before.

Gary might have been rude, but for James to have a go at someone for being rude in such a rude and offensive (name calling like the babysitter stuff) manner is just laughable, hypocritical and ******s me right off. Is it not?! This is the point I was making.

I so agree.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by jet

fgs, I like Gary way more than James, but put it like this:

If someone kept rudely butting into your conversation by shouting 'hey, hey, hey' and you had asked them to stop doing it countless times because it bugs you, wouldn't you get exasperated and annoyed? It's not a case of justifying anything, it's a case of not always blaming everything on one person and turning a blind eye to any fault in the other person.
Gary shouldn't be exempt from any blame because he's Gary. It's so patronizing.

I wonder too why it didn't show Gary butting in, just James reacting?

Gary butted in because he heard his name being mentioned, it's not a crime to want to know what was being said and I agree that constant butting in would be annoying but is there really a need for James to get so wound up about it? he's the only one that seems to get so irate..

And again no one says Gary should be exempt from any blame, you seem to mention that a lot when it's over exaggerating IMO there is plenty of people that support Gary and CAN admit his faults.

James goes on about being rude whilst being completely rude.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Josy

Gary butted in because he heard his name being mentioned, it's not a crime to want to know what was being said and I agree that constant butting in would be annoying but is there really a need for James to get so wound up about it? he's the only one that seems to get so irate..

And again no one says Gary should be exempt from any blame, you seem to mention that a lot when it's over exaggerating IMO there is plenty of people that support Gary and CAN admit his faults.

James goes on about being rude whilst being completely rude.

Of course Gary has faults, it would be interesting to see more though. If James ignored him then Gary is going to try and get his attention, if he heard his name mentioned then he would want to know as many do.

James should really tone it down a bit, he tells Gary how wonderful he has been to stand up for him, those words alone is a put down for someone who doesnt really know who likes him and who doesnt. James has made himself Gary's keeper and he is keeping him in line with his put downs. Unfortunately Gary seems to be under James spell and doesnt realise how he is being manipulated. It is my opinion that because Gary is deaf, they feel they can hold conversations about him and not far from him. Stephanies sneaky little face, she was really enjoying it!

Didnt appreciate James having a go at Kellie neither under the guise of the dummy, there wasnt any need for that.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Josy

Gary butted in because he heard his name being mentioned, it's not a crime to want to know what was being said and I agree that constant butting in would be annoying but is there really a need for James to get so wound up about it? he's the only one that seems to get so irate..

And again no one says Gary should be exempt from any blame, you seem to mention that a lot when it's over exaggerating IMO there is plenty of people that support Gary and CAN admit his faults.

James goes on about being rude whilst being completely rude.

I think (the bolded part) is because he is the only one who really bothers with him and Gary is maddeningly annoying to be around. The others wisely stay away and get off scot free even though not helping or interacting could be seen as even more uncaring. I honestly think James likes him and wants to help but he isn't the best person to do it - he's too volatile and hot - headed.
I wish James would just distance himself and let us see how one of the others deals so closely with him. But they are happy to let James carry on even though they must see his temperament isn't suited to it. They all get off the hook.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jet

I think (the bolded part) is because he is the only one who really bothers with him and Gary is maddeningly annoying to be around. The others wisely stay away and get off scot free even though not helping or interacting could be seen as even more uncaring. I honestly think James likes him and wants to help but he isn't the best person to do it - he's too volatile and hot - headed.
I wish James would just distance himself and let us see how one of the others deals so closely with him. But they are happy to let James carry on even though they must see his temperament isn't suited to it. They all get off the hook.

Thinking about it though, maybe it would be good for them all to just treat him as part of the house and not try and make him different. My daughter is disabled but she is very capable of fitting in, this is how it should be regardless.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by jet

fgs, I like Gary way more than James, but put it like this:

If someone kept rudely butting into your conversation by shouting 'hey, hey, hey' and you had asked them to stop doing it countless times because it bugs you, wouldn't you get exasperated and annoyed? It's not a case of justifying anything, it's a case of not always blaming everything on one person and turning a blind eye to any fault in the other person.
Gary shouldn't be exempt from any blame because he's Gary. It's so patronizing.

I wonder too why it didn't show Gary butting in, just James reacting?

When you have looked after someone with Dementia/brain injuries and etc. You will understand.

It is hard to do and takes much committment and patience. This is just rudeness in the extreme. They will learn.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by abhorson

When you have looked after someone with Dementia/brain injuries and etc. You will understand.

It is hard to do and takes much committment and patience. This is just rudeness in the extreme. They will learn.

If he does need to be looked after, it's not down to the other housemates to do so, they didn't go in there to look after someone, that's not their job.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by LiamPRW

If he does need to be looked after, it's not down to the other housemates to do so, they didn't go in there to look after someone, that's not their job.

Of course not, but some tolerance and understanding would not go missing.

Would James talk to his own Grand parents this way ? I ****ing hope not.

[puzzled]

Originally Posted by abhorson

When you have looked after someone with Dementia/brain injuries and etc. You will understand.

It is hard to do and takes much committment and patience. This is just rudeness in the extreme. They will learn.

Spot on. All that is necessary is to calmly say, "Just a minute," or, "I'm not finished." There's no need to lecture and belittle. If we all shouted and ranted at our deaf friends and relatives, and those with dementia, not only would we be hoarse, we'd be abusers. IMO, James is abusing Gary, and BB ought to make it stop, and call off their rottweiler.

[abhorson]

Originally Posted by puzzled

Spot on. All that is necessary is to calmly say, "Just a minute," or, "I'm not finished." There's no need to lecture and belittle. If we all shouted and ranted at our deaf friends and relatives, and those with dementia, not only would we be hoarse, we'd be abusers. IMO, James is abusing Gary, and BB ought to make it stop, and call off their rottweiler.

It is getting close.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by puzzled

Spot on. All that is necessary is to calmly say, "Just a minute," or, "I'm not finished." There's no need to lecture and belittle. If we all shouted and ranted at our deaf friends and relatives, and those with dementia, not only would we be hoarse, we'd be abusers. IMO, James is abusing Gary, and BB ought to make it stop, and call off their rottweiler.

Honestly it makes me very uncomfortable I can't see how they can let this go indefinitely without stepping in and showing James how he is behaving for half an hour. I just wonder if he would be able to take it on board or if it would go over his head.

[Patricia4]

I watched this video this morning and spoke about it somewhere I said then and say it now I want him out fast.

[delta]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

I watched this video this morning and spoke about it somewhere I said then and say it now I want him out fast.

I cannot bring myself to watch it he annoys me that much!!



BTW- Great avatar of the KING !!!

[abhorson]

Gary has to win this!! Makes me laugh and never takes it to another level.

The intolerence by the ignorant baffles me.

[Jules2]

I would like to see James go but the thing which worries me is the fact that James has made Gary so dependant on him would Gary miss him? I would like to see more of Frenchy and Gary together but not much is shown in that way.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Jules2

I would like to see James go but the thing which worries me is the fact that James has made Gary so dependant on him would Gary miss him? I would like to see more of Frenchy and Gary together but not much is shown in that way.

I think James like to make out that Gary depends on him a lot more than Gary actually does, that's just my opinion from watching the goings on in there.

Audley, Frenchy and Edele would help Gary out if he needed it.

[Josy]

The thing that stands out the most to me here is how angry James gets, how he feels the need to put Gary down (and not just Gary he does this with anyone he has an argument or disagreement with), I just don't see the need for it, he also carries out his rant in a rude and disrespectful way whilst actually ranting about Gary being rude.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Josy

I think James like to make out that Gary depends on him a lot more than Gary actually does, that's just my opinion from watching the goings on in there.

Audley, Frenchy and Edele would help Gary out if he needed it.

We have been brainwashed into thinking that Gary does need help but I wonder if some of it is, as someone else said, the fact that he is waited on at home and told when and where to do such and such a thing. With his career he will have stayed in hotels etc. etc. It is the same as someone repairing a car, I wouldnt know where to start, mind you even if I was shown I think I would get it wrong but many would learn. Me, I do not have to but see what I am saying.

A case of understanding and getting used to a situation and not being made fun of for washing a cup and washing the sides, for having a shower etc. etc. I am willing to bet that noone else is under such scrutiny as Gary, he doesnt have a firm friend other than Frenchy, the others talk down to him and not with him as though they are better. The only other one I would trust is Audley tbh. Lauren peed in the pool, George drank the water how do we know who washes their hands after toilet?

I dont think he is slow but I think that James has made him to dependent on him. Perhaps it would be a good thing for James to go after all, maybe Gary will come into his own.