[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I naively for a split second thought when I saw it, "no one will be able to fully defend this" but I realised that such a thought was ridiculous and of course they'd be defending it before I even logged in .

I doubt anyone thinks it was actually fine and no one would ever dream of (openly) saying what he said themselves, but of course they'll pretend to think it was fine and everyone over-reacted. Just typical culture war nonsense.

Haha same. I also thought this then remembered it’s TiBB and the types of people this site has.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Haha same. I also thought this then remembered it’s TiBB and the types of people this site has.

I laugh when people think this place is full of extreme views and riddled with prejudice, it's a bloody kindergarten compared to what the C4 forums where like, and 90% of all political and modern dayism debate based discord servers.

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Swan

I laugh when people think this place is full of extreme views and riddled with prejudice, it's a bloody kindergarten compared to what the C4 forums where like, and 90% of all political and modern dayism debate based discord servers.

I never said it was worse.

But it’s not great.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Swan

I laugh when people think this place is full of extreme views and riddled with prejudice, it's a bloody kindergarten compared to what the C4 forums where like, and 90% of all political and modern dayism debate based discord servers.

We have more echo chambers now, but the much younger internet had the same complaints about being a nasty place. And there wasn't nearly as much to do on it...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The usual suspects out in force to defend blatant homophobia and attack the victim of said homophobia for how she dealt with it, shock horror

Bollox

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lets keep the thread about the topic and not members or it will be closed

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lizzie Cundy (33) has said that Mickey is a kind soul who helped her and he should be given the chance to stay in the house

She knows him



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ZIE-CUNDY.html

[Livia]

That's a scary looking broad.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Livia

That's a scary looking broad.

Jesus I presumed that JoJo was the one wearing the trousers in that relationship

Obviously not

[Glenn.]

Unfortunately I knew this would be the case.

[Livia]

Amuses me when people refer to the "types Of person" on TiBB. No one on here is all good or all bad and to pretend otherwise is laughable.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Livia

Amuses me when people refer to the "types Of person" on TiBB. No one on here is all good or all bad and to pretend otherwise is laughable.

[Oliver_W]

I'm not saying this excuses the way he spoke to JoJo, but it's interesting how he doesn't seem tomind gay men - he was concerned about what pronouns to use with Danny, he complimented his drag costume to BB, and used to work in a tranny bar

It's probably a narcissism thing - he thinks gays want to sleep with him, and dislikes lesbians because they don't

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm not saying this excuses the way he spoke to JoJo, but it's interesting how he doesn't seem tomind gay men - he was concerned about what pronouns to use with Danny, he complimented his drag costume to BB, and used to work in a tranny bar

It's probably a narcissism thing - he thinks gays want to sleep with him, and dislikes lesbians because they don't

Disliking one lesbian doesn't mean you dislike all lesbians.

The way that I saw it is that he made an ill-judged joke on the assumption that JoJo would be thick-skinned enough to take it and probably give it back as a bit of fun smack-talking, but when JoJo crumbled he thought **** it and doubled down.

I actually do not think he is homophobic or transphobic at all.. He seems very liberal to me, in all honesty, but just '90s liberal' and not modern 'woke liberal'.

He just tried to joke like it was the 90s still and quickly found out that doesn't work on mainstream telly any more, especially among those that do understand the medium and the BB audience base..

[Maru]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Dislike one lesbian doesn't mean you dislike all lesbians.

The way that I saw it is that he mad an ill judged joke on the assumption that JoJo would be thick skinned enough to take it and probably give it back as a bit of fun smack talking, but when JoJo crumbled he thought **** it and doubled down.

I actually do not think he is homophobic or transphobic at all.. He seems very liberal to me, in all honesty, but just '90s liberal' and not modern 'woke liberal'.

He just tried to joke like it was the 90s still and quickly found out that doesn't work on mainstream telly any more, especially among those that do understand the medium and the BB audience base..

He pushed boundaries enough that it would've gone over better in the US, regardless of time period. Freedom of Expression for most takes first place in social spaces here. Ill-judged or not, people give each other a little bit more grace to "be who they are" and so some people are really accustomed to being able to say whatever comes to mind and not immediately be brought up on it... where I think he might've created a problem is in announcing who he would or wouldn't evict... some might take that as a challenge

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Disliking one lesbian doesn't mean you dislike all lesbians.

The way that I saw it is that he made an ill-judged joke on the assumption that JoJo would be thick-skinned enough to take it and probably give it back as a bit of fun smack-talking, but when JoJo crumbled he thought **** it and doubled down.

I actually do not think he is homophobic or transphobic at all.. He seems very liberal to me, in all honesty, but just '90s liberal' and not modern 'woke liberal'.

He just tried to joke like it was the 90s still and quickly found out that doesn't work on mainstream telly any more, especially among those that do understand the medium and the BB audience base..

Perfect assessment of the situation

[MTVN]

I've just watched it now and it was quite uncomfortable and quite deliberate. I think what made it worse is that he actually felt aggrieved at being called out on it and was patting himself on the back for not kicking off even though he was the only one at fault

Mostly I've liked Mickey from the first two eps and he should be a good housemate but it shouldn't be hard to accept he's in the wrong here

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I've just watched it now and it was quite uncomfortable and quite deliberate. I think what made it worse is that he actually felt aggrieved at being called out on it and was patting himself on the back for not kicking off even though he was the only one at fault

Mostly I've liked Mickey from the first two eps and he should be a good housemate but it shouldn't be hard to accept he's in the wrong here

Even he admitted that and apologized.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

Even he admitted that and apologized.

Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong

[Swan]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong

He's stuck in his ways, and views now probably, most likely wont change at his age. But lets be fair, he wont even remember this "gig" by Christmas, just an easy payday for him.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Swan

He's stuck in his ways, and views now probably, most likely wont change at his age. But lets be fair, he wont even remember this "gig" by Christmas, just an easy payday for him.

True and the experience will probably only make him more likely to value his secluded life over this strange new world

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong

He's definitely stuck in his ways, but at least he's making the effort. It's not easy at his age.
My late father was pretty much the same.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Not sure how sincere that was. He seemed to apologise more because he thought it showed him as the bigger person rather than actually recognising he'd done anything wrong

This. As all his fans have been saying, “he’s stuck in his ways”

The apology wasn’t genuine at all.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

This. As all his fans have been saying, “he’s stuck in his ways”

The apology wasn’t genuine at all.

You are just like Mickey Glenn, completely stuck in your ways, you have absolutely no time whatsoever for people who challenge you with a differing opinion, even when perfectly reasonable. And when said person does test you, ask you a challenging question, you just reply with - Or call them a phobe or racist of some kind. Weak.

People are generally so open for discussion, but you hear something you don't like, you immediately resort to insults and mockery, and belittling. And of course, reminding us all of how grand and full of riches your life is.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

This. As all his fans have been saying, “he’s stuck in his ways”

The apology wasn’t genuine at all.

You can’t say the apology wasn’t genuine - we do know that he was reprimanded and warned by BB , then immediately held to task by JoJo as he came out of the diary room … he then went outside alone and came back in later to apologise ..

That suggests that the apology was indeed heartfelt .