[Samm]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

A pride event in a children's school ? the worlds gone mad !! I would keep my child off school that day

“The parade was about teaching the kids love has no label and celebrating love in all its forms.

Your poor child, making them grow up in the a small world, mindless view

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

Time for adults to stop forcing this kind of crap on kids. Someone had an agenda when they thought of this, and it wasn't one of the pupils. 'Pride' is a great thing for adults and long may the celebration continue, but forcing it on a school? Surely the message should be inclusion and not separation? Being gay doesn't make you different from the rest of society, you're not unique or special, you're just another person. Maybe that'd be a better lesson.

100% true, no one needs it ramming down their necks esp children , its gets bloody boring after a while get over yourself you're not special or a special case

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Samm

“The parade was about teaching the kids love has no label and celebrating love in all its forms.

Your poor child, making them grow up in the a small world, mindless view

Oi, don't make comments about another forum member, especially about their parenting skills. That's a banning offence on here.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Livia

you're not unique or special, you're just another person. Maybe that'd be a better lesson.

I wish that was everyone's view, but sadly it's not, many LGBT people including myself are scared of a normal activity like holding hands with another person of the same sex in public, my friend and his partner was spat on a few weeks ago in daylight as they were holding hands walking in public view, that's why LGBT issues must have a strong voice, because until LGBT people are seen as "just another person" as you stated, Pride events and awareness must still go on

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Samm

I wish that was everyone's view, but sadly it's not, many LGBT people including myself are scared of a normal activity like holding hands with another person of the same sex in public, my friend and his partner was spat on a few weeks ago in daylight as they were holding hands walking in public view, that's why LGBT issues must have a strong voice, because until LGBT people are seen as "just another person" as you stated, Pride events and awareness must still go on

Thats fine for consenting ADULTS but keep kids out of it

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Samm

I wish that was everyone's view, but sadly it's not, many LGBT people including myself are scared of a normal activity like holding hands with another person of the same sex in public, my friend and his partner was spat on a few weeks ago in daylight as they were holding hands walking in public view, that's why LGBT issues must have a strong voice, because until LGBT people are seen as "just another person" as you stated, Pride events and awareness must still go on

It wasn't that long ago you could go to prison for being gay. Now you can marry the person you love and it's actually against the law to discriminate. You can't deny that things have changed for gay people and continue to change. But taking that into a primary school... I don't think it belongs there. Secondary school... maybe.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Samm

I wish that was everyone's view, but sadly it's not, many LGBT people including myself are scared of a normal activity like holding hands with another person of the same sex in public, my friend and his partner was spat on a few weeks ago in daylight as they were holding hands walking in public view, that's why LGBT issues must have a strong voice, because until LGBT people are seen as "just another person" as you stated, Pride events and awareness must still go on

Not all cultures have been streamlined to be PC though have they.

You’re living on cloud 9 if you think Nigerian parents in South London wouldn’t take their kids out of a primary school that advocates gay pride for primary school kids.

Pride events don’t need to go on at school. Especially black schools. That’s how it is in reality.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Thats fine for consenting ADULTS but keep kids out of it

Why? Pride has different forms, an adult pride parade would be much different for one centred around kids, why should we let this younger generation of kids grow up thinking something is wrong with them for years until they discovered what gay means themselves, is years of suffering and bullying worth it?

[armand.kay]

I think the fact that people find the idea of children being taught about gay people so offensive just goes to show that the idea of gayness being somehow perverted or dirty hasn't died out yet. A pride event at a school Imo is no different to the black history month days we use to have when I was in school. I hope people soon realise that you can speak to children about gay people without whipping out the gay porn

[armand.kay]

If I was the headmistress I would just put my foot down and held the event anyway.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I think the fact that people find the idea of children being taught about gay people so offensive just goes to show that the idea of gayness being somehow perverted or dirty hasn't died out yet. A pride event at a school Imo is no different to the black history month days we use to have when I was in school. I hope people soon realise that you can speak to children about gay people without whipping out the gay porn

Not everyone’s white British.

Outdated views on homosexuality are growing out in Western culture. But Western culture isn’t the face of world culture is it.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Samm

Why? Pride has different forms, an adult pride parade would be much different for one centred around kids, why should we let this younger generation of kids grow up thinking something is wrong with them for years until they discovered what gay means themselves, is years of suffering and bullying worth it?

It’s a black school. Enough said.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I think the fact that people find the idea of children being taught about gay people so offensive just goes to show that the idea of gayness being somehow perverted or dirty hasn't died out yet. A pride event at a school Imo is no different to the black history month days we use to have when I was in school. I hope people soon realise that you can speak to children about gay people without whipping out the gay porn

They're not being "taught". This is a kind of Pride event. No one thinks gay people are offensive, no one wants them singled out - although they do tend to do that themselves - No one thinks they're dirty... this is about the inappropriateness of taking a gay pride event into a primary school.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Samm

Why? Pride has different forms, an adult pride parade would be much different for one centred around kids, why should we let this younger generation of kids grow up thinking something is wrong with them for years until they discovered what gay means themselves, is years of suffering and bullying worth it?

No form of sexuality including sex education should be rammed down young childrens necks

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Redway

Not all cultures have been streamlined to be PC though have they.

You’re living on cloud 9 if you think Nigerian parents in South London wouldn’t take their kids out of a primary school that advocates gay pride for primary school kids.

Pride events don’t need to go on at school. Especially black schools. That’s how it is in reality.

To be fair I don’t think any culture should be given special treatment on this. Why especially black schools - there are many parents who don’t want it in ‘white’ schools either - though I doubt there is any school in the country that is 100% white these days.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by Livia

It wasn't that long ago you could go to prison for being gay. Now you can marry the person you love and it's actually against the law to discriminate. You can't deny that things have changed for gay people and continue to change. But taking that into a primary school... I don't think it belongs there. Secondary school... maybe.

I know things have changed massively in the last twenty years, I didn't say it didn't and i'm proud of that, but that reality is there's still a lot of discrimination that occurs, secondary school it should be yes, but it's better to give the LGBT information to kids at a young age, i'm not saying they need to throw a massive pride parade to show this, but maybe adapt it to one of their lessons, inform them about LGBT and that it's perfectly normal for people of the same sex to love each other, and in terms of a pride event I don't see anything wrong with it, for parents to come in, and being able to dress up in colourful outfits with the entire school, sell food and drinks like a normal parade

Originally Posted by Redway

Not all cultures have been streamlined to be PC though have they.

You’re living on cloud 9 if you think Nigerian parents in South London wouldn’t take their kids out of a primary school that advocates gay pride for primary school kids.

Pride events don’t need to go on at school. Especially black schools. That’s how it is in reality.

So we should just ignore the issues? and let them stay like that, maybe not the pride parade like I was saying and maybe some educational lessons

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Redway

Not everyone’s white British.

Outdated views on homosexuality are growing out in Western culture. But Western culture isn’t the face of world culture is it.

So then why should we let these people with outdated views dictate what is taught at or schools?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s a black school. Enough said.

Its a bi product of multiculture, the natives cant pick and choose the bits of multiculture they want to embrace, its warts and all or nothing

[Samm]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I think the fact that people find the idea of children being taught about gay people so offensive just goes to show that the idea of gayness being somehow perverted or dirty hasn't died out yet. A pride event at a school Imo is no different to the black history month days we use to have when I was in school. I hope people soon realise that you can speak to children about gay people without whipping out the gay porn

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

To be fair I don’t think any culture should be given special treatment on this. Why especially black schools - there are many parents who don’t want it in ‘white’ schools either - though I doubt there is any school in the country that is 100% white these days.

Why especially black schools?

Because black culture is much more homophobic than white British culture. Facts whether it sounds PC or not.

White people who aren’t exposed to Afro-Caribbean tings and assume that everyone’s at the same level of political correctness might not admit the truth but I can say that.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Samm

I know things have changed massively in the last twenty years, I didn't say it didn't and i'm proud of that, but that reality is there's still a lot of discrimination that occurs, secondary school it should be yes, but it's better to give the LGBT information to kids at a young age, i'm not saying they need to throw a massive pride parade to show this, but maybe adapt it to one of their lessons, inform them about LGBT and that it's perfectly normal for people of the same sex to love each other, and in terms of a pride event I don't see anything wrong with it, for parents to come in, and being able to dress up in colourful outfits with the entire school, sell food and drinks like a normal parade



So we should just ignore the issues? and let them stay like that, maybe not the pride parade like I was saying and maybe some educational lessons

I have no objection to the subject being discussed in school. I have three nieces who are now 15, 13 and 10. They all go to the same school and they all have openly gay friends at that school. Kids are far more accepting of others than adults are anyway, so having adults force a gay pride march on a primary school seems like overkill to me.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Redway

It’s a black school. Enough said.

No it isn’t.

[Samm]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

No form of sexuality including sex education should be rammed down young childrens necks

Heterosexually and Homosexuality is far different from "sex", what are you on about, you can tell kids about these issues without the actual issue of talking about sex

[armand.kay]

Originally Posted by Livia

They're not being "taught". This is a kind of Pride event. No one thinks gay people are offensive, no one wants them singled out - although they do tend to do that themselves - No one thinks they're dirty... this is about the inappropriateness of taking a gay pride event into a primary school.

I just don't see whats so inappropriate about it tbh. all I'm imagining is a few rainbow cupcakes and the kids people told that some times people of the same gender fall in love...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by armand.kay

I just don't see whats so inappropriate about it tbh. all I'm imagining is a few rainbow cupcakes and the kids people told that some times people of the same gender fall in love...

Which is fine for secondary but not for primary