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In a city like London I’m wholly sure there are CCTV cameras and people everywhere.
Oh yeah - they are going to go to all that trouble for a balloon - get real!
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The same would have applied to Obama, Clinton and all other American presidents. The system is the system that apples to all - so your point is pointless!
Obama won the most votes
Clinton won the most votes...

Ergo they had a mandate

George Bush didn’t the first time and I’d have argued then he shouldn’t have gone to Iraq because of it

Read up on your facts next time
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Oh yeah - they are going to go to all that trouble for a balloon - get real!
If you shoot a gun in London you deserve what’s coming to you especially in this high security climate.
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The same would have applied to Obama, Clinton and all other American presidents. The system is the system that apples to all - so your point is pointless!
Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?
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Obama won the popular vote by nearly 10 million votes.

Trump LOST the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.



... It doesn't apply at all?
My point exactly!
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My point exactly!
No it wasn’t.
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No it wasn’t.
Don’t you dare tell me what you think I meant.

I clearly said trump didn’t win the most votes and the system elected him... therefore he was undemocratically elected
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... It doesn't apply at all?
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... It doesn't apply at all?
Regardless it is the system - he won - people really need to get over it. The same people are sulking about Trump and Brexit because the votes didn’t go their way - diddums!
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Regardless it is the system - he won - people really need to get over it. The same people are sulking about Trump and Brexit because the votes didn’t go their way - diddums!
So don’t continue calling him democratically elected.
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great point!
Changes nothing.
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So don’t continue calling him democratically elected.
He won - that’s all that counts in a democracy!
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He won - that’s all that counts in a democracy!
No... democracy is getting the most votes and winning. That’s the whole point of a democracy otherwise it’s an autocracy...
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Changes nothing.
like Underscore said, it means you shouldn’t exactly be describing him as democratically elected. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. Donald Trump lost but because of the ridiculous electoral college thing they have over there, Trump still won.
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... It doesn't apply at all?
Michelle for President next imo
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This.

Hell I’d go and move there just to vote for her.
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Trump was democratically elected because it was the democratic system that all parties agreed to abide by
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She wants to be a celeb not a politician

she hasnt got the balls, like Donald has
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this is the level of their "protest" and it shows you just who these people are


love it

I hope it's not too small tho, Trump deserves the best and the biggest
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Trump was democratically elected.

Trump is legitimately the elected president of the United States.

Trump does represent the United States as an entity.


... Trump however CANNOT be described as representing the majority of US citizens. The figures show that he simply does not. He represents almost, but less than, half of them. Those are the figures and I have no idea how anyone can argue with cold hard numbers .
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the mayor is utterly useless, i wouldn’t expect anything else from him
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No... democracy is getting the most votes and winning. That’s the whole point of a democracy otherwise it’s an autocracy...
That’s the system that all were aware of. Can’t change the system because it didn’t work in your favour. Sick of all the sore losers trying every trick in the book to overturn democracy when it suits and the constant whinging and whining. It won’t change anything. You would be blowing a gasket if it were the other way round.
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