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Old 07-08-2018, 03:18 PM #1
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Whatever you think of Alex Jones’ Info Wars, YouTube closing it down is part of a programme to shut down alternative media. Yesterday on the BBC it was said, ‘he hasn’t broken the law he has broken their (YouTube’s) laws’. Only the criminal law or the laws of libel should apply.

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Whatever you think of Alex Jones’ Info Wars, YouTube closing it down is part of a programme to shut down alternative media. Yesterday on the BBC it was said, ‘he hasn’t broken the law he has broken their (YouTube’s) laws’. Only the criminal law or the laws of libel should apply.

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Except he has broken their rules of bullying and hate speech. The parents of the Sandy Hook victims can attest to that.

Trying to turn this story into a 'poor extremist being repressed by the media!' type thing ain't going to work when he endorses the harassment of parents of murdered children.
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Except he has broken their rules of bullying and hate speech. The parents of the Sandy Hook victims can attest to that.

Trying to turn this story into a 'poor extremist being repressed by the media!' type thing ain't going to work when he endorses the harassment of parents of murdered children.
The rules of bullying??
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The rules of bullying??
Youtube has clear rules about bullying/targeting of others. The Sandy Hook business is a clear violation of that alone and we haven't even touched the hate speech angle.
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Youtube has clear rules about bullying/targeting of others. The Sandy Hook business is a clear violation of that alone and we haven't even touched the hate speech angle.
Yes but youtube is not the law, and that is the point being made.
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Yes but youtube is not the law, and that is the point being made.
No, they are a private company who can restrict usage to whomever fails to follow their terms & conditions that users agreed to when they signed up. Just like every other platform owned by a private company that this arsehole has been banned from.

Trying to turn it into an argument of freedom of speech is just disingenuous, he broke the rules of the website and services and he got banned from them.

Nobody is denying him his freedom of speech, he is allowed his opinions but he isn't entitled to use these platforms when he breaks their rules.
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No, they are a private company who can restrict usage to whomever fails to follow their terms & conditions that users agreed to when they signed up. Just like every other platform owned by a private company that this arsehole has been banned from.

Trying to turn it into an argument of freedom of speech is just disingenuous, he broke the rules of the website and services and he got banned from them.

Nobody is denying him his freedom of speech, he is allowed his opinions but he isn't entitled to use these platforms when he breaks their rules.
Do you agree with their rules?

Hypothetical question for

If one of these companies hired a person with a totally different political opinion to you, and they saw that you called somebody a Nazi or some other name, and they decided to kick you off the platform for hate speech basically because they didn't like you and your opinion.

Would you think, that's fair enough, rules are rules?

Or would you think that you are being treated terribly?
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No, they are a private company who can restrict usage to whomever fails to follow their terms & conditions that users agreed to when they signed up. Just like every other platform owned by a private company that this arsehole has been banned from.

Trying to turn it into an argument of freedom of speech is just disingenuous, he broke the rules of the website and services and he got banned from them.

Nobody is denying him his freedom of speech, he is allowed his opinions but he isn't entitled to use these platforms when he breaks their rules.
im afraid that was not the point made
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