[Maru]

Originally Posted by Livia

Yes, because that's exactly the same thing as cutting off a girls clitoris with no anaesthetic, by an unqualified person and with unsterilized blades while family members hold her down, and then sewing her up so she can just pee and menstruate. Never mind what happens when her husband wants sex, or when she has a child... And there are Millions - MILLIONS - of women who have suffered this, some right here in the UK.

Yes, male circumcision must be JUST the same... or it wouldn't get brought up, by a man, ever time FGM gets brought up.

Wow. I have scarring of the bladder and it's nigh impossible to stop the pain once it is set off without invention. Pelvic pain in general is no walk in the park. It tend to becomes recurrent if left untreated and with there are so many nerve-endings there, it's more difficult to treat than pain in other areas. So probably people think "take a pain pill". It's really not that simple. There are so many sensitive areas there, involuntary reflexes, etc. For example, the bladder filling and pressing up against damaged nerves could lead to bladder spasms, which are also involuntary. The pain can spread to other areas. Then adding in the stress element. Like any muscle, tension links pretty closely with how we feel, our mental state. High stress means more tension, which leads to tightening. Tightening up means more pain, especially in areas with scar-tissue, which the procedure sounds like it would lead to a lot of scar-tissue. There's also people who have physiological reactions to sexual trauma/shaming as well, for example, conditions such as vaginismus. That could complicate treatment as well. That has to be a complete hell. That's probably the intent.

I would not compare that to a circumsion. Religious folk want to reproduce. Can't do that when your junk feels like it is on fire all the time.

To bring this back OT. Another form of arraignment against the kid in the OP maybe?... "Well somebody wasn't circumsized when they were younger" ...