[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Livia

If there's anything that's inherently undemocratic it's ignoring the first vote because the remain camp is very loud.

Or cause Vote Leave broke electoral law, which makes an actual real mockery of democracy

[Mitchell]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Or cause Vote Leave broke electoral law, which makes an actual real mockery of democracy

But that’s fine apparently cos 17m people!!!

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Mitchell

But that’s fine apparently cos 17m people!!!

Again, let's have your take on the breach of electoral law you're all suddenly citing.

The bottom line is that neither side played fair in the referendum campaign. Neither side knew what the hell would happen. But the bottom line is that one side won the referendum and one side lost.

[bots]

I think enough has materially changed from the sound bites and lies and general misinformation surrounding the initial referendum, to warrant a new vote. However, I dont think it should be a rerun. I think it should be remain, or exit with the agreed terms. As much as everyone finds fault with May's deal, there is zero chance of getting anything different

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I think enough has materially changed from the sound bites and lies and general misinformation surrounding the initial referendum, to warrant a new vote. However, I dont think it should be a rerun. I think it should be remain, or exit with the agreed terms. As much as everyone finds fault with May's deal, there is zero chance of getting anything different

There is zero chance of getting another deal which is why a general election, or at least a change of PM is getting more likely every day. May has been calling in her MPs one at a some to garner support and a large majority of them are refusing to see her. The consensus seems to be that the Chequers deal is dead in the water and the best deal is one being recommended by the European Research Group, the Super Canada deal, or Canada+++. The ERG has tried to cite it as a better alternative for months but Mrs May seems determined. Even though the Institute for Economic Affairs also published a report explaining in economic terms how such an agreement would work in practice.

It's a strange time in Westminster. Makes me glad to think I don't work in politics any more.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

There is zero chance of getting another deal which is why a general election, or at least a change of PM is getting more likely every day. May has been calling in her MPs one at a some to garner support and a large majority of them are refusing to see her. The consensus seems to be that the Chequers deal is dead in the water and the best deal is one being recommended by the European Research Group, the Super Canada deal, or Canada+++. The ERG has tried to cite it as a better alternative for months but Mrs May seems determined. Even though the Institute for Economic Affairs also published a report explaining in economic terms how such an agreement would work in practice.

It's a strange time in Westminster. Makes me glad to think I don't work in politics any more.

is that the outfit associated with jacob rees mogg?
no, thank you

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Dia.

Or cause Vote Leave broke electoral law, which makes an actual real mockery of democracy

Tell me how they broke electoral law. I'd be very interested to hear your take on that. And I'd like to hear whether the "remain" camp played 100% fair and told only the truth.