[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Did you not read my post?

The point I was making was How would you know you were talking to a vegan unless they told you they were the were vegans? You said every vegan you met "rubbed it in your face" so basically that's how you knew they were vegans, most people don't bring up their diets in ordinary circumstances, so you could have have been talking to plenty who didn't rub it in your face.

As an anecdote, my sons Karate teacher is vegan, I've known him for years, been on trips away with him and the group for competitions, I only found out a couple of months ago that he was vegan because my son mentioned it because he literally never spoke about it whenever I met him..because people don't usually talk about what they eat in normal life unless the topic specifically arises.

Imagine if I flipped my own personal anecdote the other way round and said the vast majority of vegans are tolerant of meat eaters and non-imposing. Would you still be asking how I could make such a broad generalisation about vegans without knowing the food status of everyone unless it specifically came up in conversation?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Imagine if I flipped my own personal anecdote the other way round and said the vast majority of vegans are tolerant of meat eaters and non-imposing. Would you still be asking how I could make such a broad generalisation about vegans without knowing the food status of everyone unless it specifically came up in conversation?

I probably wouldn't because it's not a nasty, inflammatory statement to make about a group of people. That's not to say it would be more correct than what you did actually say though.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I probably wouldn't because it's not a nasty, inflammatory statement to make about a group of people. That's not to say it would be more correct than what you did actually say though.

I don’t remember saying anything overly nasty about vegans.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

I don’t remember saying anything overly nasty about vegans.

Let me remind you :

Originally Posted by Redway

Two words: weak and sentimentality.

Not to mention intolerant and all-imposing.

[Redway]

Yup. I won’t deny that I think veganism’s rooted in weak sentimentality for the most part. Like I’ve already said. Or that too big a number of vegans are intolerant and all-imposing on meat and dairy consumers.

I still don’t see how that’s overly nasty towards vegans specifically though. Maybe because I’m not ultra-PC about describing movements like veganism or on the lookout to take offense from meat eaters at the drop of a hat.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Redway

Yup. I won’t deny that I think veganism’s rooted in weak sentimentality for the most part. Like I’ve already said. Or that too big a number of vegans are intolerant and all-imposing on meat and dairy consumers.

I still don’t see how that’s overly nasty towards vegans specifically though. Maybe because I’m not ultra-PC about describing movements like veganism or on the lookout to take offense from meat eaters at the drop of a hat.

You don't think calling a whole group of people weak, intolerant and all-imposing based on their diet because of a few people you've met is nasty? Bloody hell, banging my head off a brick wall here then, clearly.

What I actually find hilarious is some (not all of course ) meat eaters reactions to vegetarians and vegans, it's ultra defensive even alot of times when people just say they're either vegan or vegetarian, no preaching just stating the fact that they are. It's really weird.

No idea what "PC" has to do with this conversation at all btw

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

You don't think calling a whole group of people weak, intolerant and all-imposing based on their diet because of a few people you've met is nasty? Bloody hell, banging my head off a brick wall here then, clearly.

What I actually find hilarious is some (not all of course ) meat eaters reactions to vegetarians and vegans, it's ultra defensive even alot of times when people just say they're either vegan or vegetarian, no preaching just stating the fact that they are. It's really weird.

No idea what "PC" has to do with this conversation at all btw

PC is just a catch-all term at this point that's used by people incapable of arguing their points properly so they'll just accuse something they dislike of being 'PC' or 'Political' to try to discredit it without the effort.

Pure laziness.