[James]

The problem with a second referendum is that it is being proposed by people that supported remain before and still do. It's not being proposed by people that supported leave before and have now changed their minds. Those people are just going to think that the first vote didn't count.

It would be better for remain campaigners and MPs to get behind a compromise that still delivers a version of Brexit, whether it is this deal, or if that isn't passed, a Norway-type deal.

It won't please everyone, but that is unavoidable.

[arista]

Originally Posted by James

The problem with a second referendum is that it is being proposed by people that supported remain before and still do. It's not being proposed by people that supported leave before and have now changed their minds. Those people are just going to think that the first vote didn't count.

It would be better for remain campaigners and MPs to get behind a compromise that still delivers a version of Brexit, whether it is this deal, or if that isn't passed, a Norway-type deal.

It won't please everyone, but that is unavoidable.

So far not enough backing that.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by James

The problem with a second referendum is that it is being proposed by people that supported remain before and still do. It's not being proposed by people that supported leave before and have now changed their minds. Those people are just going to think that the first vote didn't count.

It would be better for remain campaigners and MPs to get behind a compromise that still delivers a version of Brexit, whether it is this deal, or if that isn't passed, a Norway-type deal.

It won't please everyone, but that is unavoidable.

I think you're completely wrong there.

I think there's plenty of people who voted Leave who at the time, spurred on by false promises from the brexit side who have rethought their position now that they are faced with the choice of a bad deal or a no deal exit which will be bad for everyone.

If people still feel the same way as they did before then the result won't change, the brexit side only want to block another vote because they don't think they'll win now people are faced with the ramifications of what brexit will entail. Not very democratic, is it?

People are allowed to change their minds, I personally think people should be held to their mistakes in the choices they make but it would be undemocratic to not allow a vote just because one side believes they won't win again.

If the tide has changed, I think expecting the new majority to be silent and accept a compromise that's no longer the will of the people is wrong and hypocritical.

The only real democratic option is another vote, if people still want brexit, we leave with no deal since that deal won't ever be accepted and if people change their mind then they change their mind as is their democratic prerogative. One final vote now that we aren't voting on possibilities but real options makes the most sense.

If people's belief in Brexit is as strong as brexiteers have you believe than they have nothing to fear from the democratic process.