[user104658]

Yes Marsh I'm aware that you're mainly known as the level-headed champion of the middle ground on Tibb. That much is undeniable. I'm sorry for accusing you of bias and tribalism. Again, how dare.

However...

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Wouldn't say I've been in any heated discussion with anyone on this particular topic until the last 2 pages when you
declared the discussion over as you were no longer interested. .

Again you need to stop making these sorts of statements when the thread is searchable

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

This thread has just become a full on MJ Stan circlejerk, hasn't it...

"Declared the discussion over". OK Judge Judy. Good call

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes Marsh I'm aware that you're mainly known as the level-headed champion of the middle ground on Tibb. That much is undeniable. I'm sorry for accusing you of bias and tribalism. Again, how dare.

Not what was said was it? But by all means continue making stuff up. Desperation at its worst and most obvious. You said I was biased in what I said, I wasn't. Instead of acknowledging that and moving on you're now moving the goalposts and reaching for anything and everything. Sad.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Not what was said was it? But by all means continue making stuff up. Desperation at its worst and most obvious. You said I was biased in what I said, I wasn't. Instead of acknowledging that and moving on you're now moving the goalposts and reaching for anything and everything. Sad.

You responded to the comment about how I thought the thread had gone (pointless and circlejerky) from a biased position, yes. I acknowledge that you claim otherwise but countless (every?) other post you've made on the thread lead me to believe otherwise. I acknowledge that you're not an MJ Stan and that you don't really have an opinion either way on his guilt. However I think, like Joey, you were frustrated and irritated that some people are strongly stating a belief in him being guilty with supposedly insufficient evidence, and I think that frustration is what prompted your response to my observation about the direction the thread had taken (and in turn, the lie that I had insisted that "the discussion was over").

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You responded to the comment about how I thought the thread had gone (pointless and circlejerky) from a biased position, yes. I acknowledge that you claim otherwise but countless (every?) other post you've made on the thread lead me to believe otherwise. I acknowledge that you're not an MJ Stan and that you don't really have an opinion either way on his guilt. However I think, like Joey, you were frustrated and irritated that some people are strongly stating a belief in him being guilty with supposedly insufficient evidence, and I think that frustration is what prompted your response to my observation about the direction the thread had taken (and in turn, the lie that I had insisted that "the discussion was over").

Frustration?

From a post I made THREE WEEKS ago? Which was responding to a very specific point that "eccentric person = guilty of heinous crime" that wasn't even a comment on the documentary or the two guys making the allegations but flippant remarks I'd seen made all over the place.

I also hadn't posted on the topic for over a week between my last post and the one responding to your circle jerk comment. Wow, my frustration with people believing him as guilty was clearly at PEAK LEVELS.

And now we have Joey's name being brought in too. Seems like you are frustrated with every member not agreeing with everything you're saying underneath all of this. That's an issue you shall have to deal with mate, not me.

[Christmas Lights]

What kind of director refers to a project regarding child abuse as " something that turns him on " & he calls himself "a gun for hire" . The guy is the definition of a creepy movie villain .

Also when making a film , you're supposed to do research & fact checking instead of relying on graphic grim stories of 2 accusers who have lied & contradicted themselves so much that even a time machine would be confused .

It takes 2 minutes to do a background search on Wade & James, Dan doesn't care about the truth or getting information right . Fans & viewers are better film makers & journalists & it's not even their job .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Again you need to stop making these sorts of statements when the thread is searchable



"Declared the discussion over". OK Judge Judy. Good call

Not sure where you get the impression I said "circle jerk" was where you said that. You've implied it ten-fold over the last two pages.

People who believe the allegations are either offline, said everything they want to say, or have no wish to respond to the posts continuing to be posted by those who don't believe the allegations.

You had a problem with that despite it being no one else's responsibility to get others to comment. If Kazanne, Nancy etc still have things they want to discuss, still find things they want to bring into the discussion because they're still actively engaged with the topic on here and other forums then they can do so without the insinuation that they've driven away members of the other side of the debate or prevented them from posting.

BUT, I step back now. I have a Jacko single in my iTunes library I'd forgotten about so I am FAR too biased to be able to comment.