[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ahaha hadn't read the comments. Everything bad in the world is the fault of those ****ing feminists. Bitches!

I mean what he's saying doesn't even make any sense, Dany was planning on getting to Westros from Book 1, Cersei was power mad from Book 1 and Arya was well into her assassin training in the books aswell so I don't know why he thinks the show made all that happen?

[The Slim Reaper]

Finally someone brave enough to step up and hold the feminazi's accountable. Bravo that man.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Finally someone brave enough to step up and hold the feminazi's accountable. Bravo that man.

are you saying he's telling the..........................Truth?

[bots]

i bet Cersie was delighted with her investment in the gold company. They must have lasted at least 5 seconds

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i bet Cersie was delighted with her investment in the gold company. They must have lasted at least 5 seconds

It happens to everyone, stop having a go at me. Ohhh, yeah the golden company were trash.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Ahaha hadn't read the comments. Everything bad in the world is the fault of those ****ing feminists. Bitches!

Honestly it's practically the opposite, S8 has been a nightmare for literally every strong female character except Arya!

Sansa has been mostly OK character wise but the "It's OK Hound, I'm actually glad I was raped and abused, it builds character" moment was so badly misjudged .

Dany, Cersei and Brienne? All wrecked.

Dany seemed like a powerful woman but no she's just a nutter.

Cersei seemed clever and strong but nah she was just faking it and was scared and out of her depth all along.

Brienne got knighted and then was IMMEDIATELY screwed over by Jaime and left weeping as he rode away.

Feminist?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly it's practically the opposite, S8 has been a nightmare for literally every strong female character except Arya!

Sansa has been mostly OK character wise but the "It's OK Hound, I'm actually glad I was raped and abused, it builds character" moment was so badly misjudged .

Dany, Cersei and Brienne? All wrecked.

Dany seemed like a powerful woman but no she's just a nutter.

Cersei seemed clever and strong but nah she was just faking it and was scared and out of her depth all along.

Brienne got knighted and then was IMMEDIATELY screwed over by Jaime and left weeping as he rode away.

Feminist?

Yep that's true. Infact the thing that pushed Dany over the edge it seems was Jon rejecting her advances, so classic "hell hath no fury" ****

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep that's true. Infact the thing that pushed Dany over the edge it seems was Jon rejecting her advances, so classic "hell hath no fury" ****

Haha yeah that pissed me off a lot. I mean, the other bad stuff that happened to her might have been a trigger for some degree of a breakdown (still not what happened though, nothing would be an acceptable trigger for that tbh!) but it was made out that it was because Jon rejected her.

Woman desperate for sex with her family member is turned down so goes on murderous rampage. Much feminism!

[Tom4784]

The problem is that the writing tried to tell us that she's mad in previous seasons while doing nothing to actually show us that she was slipping. She's at times rash and brutal against her enemies but she was never one for hurting innocents. She was never shown to be anything other than impetuous at times. It was always characters telling us that she was supposed to be nutty and that's not how you do twists like this one.

It just feels like this whole 'twist' is just a late game way of justifying Jon's ascension to the throne in a way that wasn't meant to annoy fans since we'd lose sympathy and love for Dany but the writing is so **** that no one really buys her heel turn.

[Tom4784]

The story ended at the Battle of Winterfell for me.

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep that's true. Infact the thing that pushed Dany over the edge it seems was Jon rejecting her advances, so classic "hell hath no fury" ****

Yeah, the female characters have all been tossed aside despite the fact that many of them have carried this series from the start. The disrespect towards the likes of Lena Headey and Emillia Clarke is completely unacceptable. I don't think Emillia is a great actress outside of GOT but she did a wonderful job with the character and now all those years of hardwork have been rendered moot by one badly written twist.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

The story ended at the Battle of Winterfell for me.



Yeah, the female characters have all been tossed aside despite the fact that many of them have carried this series from the start. The disrespect towards the likes of Lena Headey and Emillia Clarke is completely unacceptable. I don't think Emillia is a great actress outside of GOT but she did a wonderful job with the character and now all those years of hardwork have been rendered moot by one badly written twist.

I'm just waiting for them to ruin Arya next week when she settles down and gets married to Gendry and becomes a proper lady

How they ruined Brienne aswell pissed me off no end

[bots]

The absolutely worst actor of the lot of them is Jon Snow .... he is completely amateurish, and yet he remains one of the main characters. Emilia, and Lena have been outstanding and an honorable mention to Maisie. When you go back to the first series and see how young she was, she has done an amazing job

[Babayaro.]

I just saw a tweet saying that The Mountain killing Qyburn was a bit like Frankenstein (monster killing creator) or something. Idk how accurate this is as I haven't read/watched frankenstein but yeah it seems like a pretty decent analogy

[Scarlett.]

The way I see things playing out is, whoever stays alive to claim the throne will end the Monarchy, and Westeros will slowly move out of the Feudal era that it has been trapped in since Aegon the Conqueror showed up

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I wonder if this is how GRRM had planned it for the book? He could have made her progression into madness more believable I think, it was all too fast in the show, same with Jaimes turn back to the darkside

I would say this is almost certainly GRRM’s end game,It just would have been executed far better.

My prediction for the Book is that:

Spoiler:

it looks like Aegon(who isn’t even on the show funnily enough) would take the Iron Throne from the Lannisters first and be generally loved by the people. He would become the Targaryen prince that freed the people and everything Dany was hoping to be, but was too slow. So Dany would end up Burning a City that doesn’t want her and killing her own Nephew and rightful heir in order to become The Queen and the Usurper, Kin Slayer etc everything she has hated and wanted to crush.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I would say this is almost certainly GRRM’s end game,It just would have been executed far better.

My prediction for the Book is that:

Spoiler:

it looks like Aegon(who isn’t even on the show funnily enough) would take the Iron Throne from the Lannisters first and be generally loved by the people. He would become the Targaryen prince that freed the people and everything Dany was hoping to be, but was too slow. So Dany would end up Burning a City that doesn’t want her and killing her own Nephew and rightful heir in order to become The Queen and the Usurper, Kin Slayer etc everything she has hated and wanted to crush.

See already that's waaay more hard hitting and much more believable. Maybe you should finish the books for him Leon

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

I would say this is almost certainly GRRM’s end game,It just would have been executed far better.

My prediction for the Book is that:

Spoiler:

it looks like Aegon(who isn’t even on the show funnily enough) would take the Iron Throne from the Lannisters first and be generally loved by the people. He would become the Targaryen prince that freed the people and everything Dany was hoping to be, but was too slow. So Dany would end up Burning a City that doesn’t want her and killing her own Nephew and rightful heir in order to become The Queen and the Usurper, Kin Slayer etc everything she has hated and wanted to crush.

IDK why thats spoilered

but in answer to it (so niamh knows its safe to click )

Spoiler:

That sounds about right. Of course that would make so much more sense. It has never ever made sense to me why they merged Jon with Aegon anyway..such an odd decision

[bots]

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[MTVN]

I wonder if Dany knew about Tyrion freeing Jaime and thought he had contrived to get the bells ringing and save Cersei and that's what made her finally snap - the fact another adviser (her most important one) had betrayed her made her decide to go against all the advice she had been taking. Pretty much everyone she formed any emotional connection with has either betrayed her or died and so torching the whole city is the only way to stop that happening again. At this point she's completely desensitised to violence and anyone else's pain

I was mainly disappointed with just how easy it was, not once was she ever under threat or have any moments of danger. Surely someone like Cersei has a back up plan if the weapons get torched.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I wonder if Dany knew about Tyrion freeing Jaime and thought he had contrived to get the bells ringing and save Cersei and that's what made her finally snap - the fact another adviser (her most important one) had betrayed her made her decide to go against all the advice she had been taking. Pretty much everyone she formed any emotional connection with has either betrayed her or died and so torching the whole city is the only way to stop that happening again. At this point she's completely desensitised to violence and anyone else's pain

I was mainly disappointed with just how easy it was, not once was she ever under threat or have any moments of danger. Surely someone like Cersei has a back up plan if the weapons get torched.

Dany somehow brought the Dothraki back to life and the fact that she lost so many resources over the course of Season 7 and the battle of Winterfell was ultimately meaningless. It was just terrible writing and the fact they had Cersei do nothing was insulting. This is a woman who will go to extremes few other people would just to survive and, like so many other characters, the writers decided to make her dumb in order to save themselves a bit of bother when it comes to her defeat.

[MTVN]

Yeah I agree, to turn her into purely a spectator with no influence over anything was poor

Who was actually supposed to have rang the bells, just some random Lannisters?

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

IDK why thats spoilered

but in answer to it (so niamh knows its safe to click )

Spoiler:

That sounds about right. Of course that would make so much more sense. It has never ever made sense to me why they merged Jon with Aegon anyway..such an odd decision

I always try to spoiler book stuff. Especially now as I imagine more people than ever may start reading them

But yeah. The show really missed out on Aegon and even Arriane tbh. Aegon especially would have tied in Dorne, the Stormlands and The Reach really well with his conquest. I think they saw how amazing Lena Headey is though and decided to have her on the throne and alive for as long as possible, without risking having to bring in a new actor. Makes sense, but the show has suffered as a result.

[MTVN]

The stupidest Lannister

[The Slim Reaper]

They've butchered Jaime.

The guy who sold his honour to protect the citizens of KL from being burned by the mad king, then turns around in the last episode and said he never really cared for them, when discussing it with Tyrion.

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

They've butchered Jaime.

The guy who sold his honour to protect the citizens of KL from being burned by the mad king, then turns around in the last episode and said he never really cared for them, when discussing it with Tyrion.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean that its true. There's not much Jaime could have done to save King's Landing either way.