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Old 27-05-2019, 09:03 AM #276
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UK shouldn't have been allowed to vote in these elections anyway, now Farage is only gonna troll in european parliament


hope we EU kicks out UK soon ourselves, like we are afraid of the british scare tactics towards us, we EU have been already bigger than UK (which isn't a empire anymore, but more being laughed at for a long time by EU)
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So you're just assuming Labour and the Tories are Remain? Both parties are pretty split tbh


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So you're just assuming Labour and the Tories are Remain? Both parties are pretty split tbh
Remove labor and tories, remain is ahead, split them equally for arguments sale, remain is still ahead
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UK shouldn't have been allowed to vote in these elections anyway, now Farage is only gonna troll in european parliament


hope we EU kicks out UK soon ourselves, like we are afraid of the british scare tactics towards us, we EU have been already bigger than UK (which isn't a empire anymore, but more being laughed at for a long time by EU)


But its a Legal problem



Loads of New Elected Le Penn in France also will Troll
It all over your SPLIT EU

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Remove labor and tories, remain is ahead, split them equally for arguments sale, remain is still ahead

but no time for a 2nd vote.
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European Election Results headlines:
- Brexit Party win with 32% of the vote
- Lib Dems second, ahead of Labour
- Worst Conservative performance ever.
Here's everything you need to know.


This is the only thing sending a clear message....32 percent of the vote......how lon has that party been running for again?.....32 percent of the vote....just let that sink in..
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But its a Legal problem



Loads of Ne Elected Le Penn in France also will Troll
It all over your SPLIT EU
at least Le Pen i agree more with her views than Macron honestly


and comparing Le Pen to your brexit party and farage (brexit party i don't take serious as a political party at all) Le Pen i do take serious, france needs some change, especially when they have those yellow vests protests going on for some time now, against Macron
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what a victorious night for Brexit and Nigel

once again the GBP have spoken in clear tones
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Only because the rest are split lets be honest, and Brexiteers were out in force voting for their new party, in a 2nd ref remain would win that is clear and its been clear for a while which is why Brexiteers run scared when anyone mentions it and start puttering on about democracy
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Remove labor and tories, remain is ahead, split them equally for arguments sale, remain is still ahead
Why would we remove or spit them? Both have it in their manifesto to respect the referendum result, so if anything they should be counted among the Leave parties.
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what a victorious night for Brexit and Nigel

once again the GBP have spoken in clear tones
yeah to vote blindly, unaware of what you vote for
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European Election Results headlines:
- Brexit Party win with 32% of the vote
- Lib Dems second, ahead of Labour
- Worst Conservative performance ever.
Here's everything you need to know.


This is the only thing sending a clear message....32 percent of the vote......how lon has that party been running for again?.....32 percent of the vote....just let that sink in..
32% of the vote is only meaningful if you fail to consider the fact that the rest of the vote is split across several parties. 32% of the vote means that 68% of the voters did NOT vote for the party offering Hard Brexit. Let that sink in. You can't assume that Labour or Conservative voters are against Brexit, but you can safely assume that most of them are against HARD Brexit, and thus, less than half of voters want a hard brexit. Meaning that it would be thoroughly undemocratic to deliver a hard Brexit.

I'd say we're no further forward really: We know that the UK voted for Brexit, we have a strong indication that people want Brexit WITH a deal and not without one, and we have a government that is failing miserably to deliver a working deal. .
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Honestly does this image not just completely blow the claims that Scotland and England are in any way politically aligned out of the water . At this point the idea of the "United" Kingdom is just a joke.
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You can't assume that Labour or Conservative voters are against Brexit, but you can safely assume that most of them are against HARD Brexit, and thus, less than half of voters want a hard brexit. Meaning that it would be thoroughly undemocratic to deliver a hard Brexit.
Well yes, however, 'the Brexit Party' surely won't see themselves as a long term party? So anything bar getting their own way won't matter to them like it would other parties surely? They wouldn't have to worry about pissing off future voters...as..after Brexit there would BE no future voters if thats all the party is about? (Personally, I think the 'party' is about Farage not losing HIS seat, and his 80k wage, and not much else )

I do think its quite unlikely they will do anywhere near as well in a GE mind. But the chance is there. Do MPs HAVE to vote for the Brexit plan? Or theoretically, could Farage just get there, say **** it, no deal brexit, do it, then leave.

Most of those who voted leave that I know (obviously not that many really) do NOT want no deal. They want to leave, but with trade deals and stuff. It really doesn't seem too popular an option, and, I don't think we can really say that 32% want it just because they voted for Farage. Theres a fair few reasons to vote for him, and it WAS voting for him, not voting for the party..in honesty really.

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Honestly does this image not just completely blow the claims that Scotland and England are in any way politically aligned out of the water . At this point the idea of the "United" Kingdom is just a joke.
That Scotland are going to get shafted because of England, its horrid really.
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That Scotland are going to get shafted because of England, its horrid really.

But Vicky
they are used to it.
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Yes and one Brexit MEP is expected for Scotland
How would there be even one? Looks fairly unianimous to me
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And that makes it better?!
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And that makes it better?!

No it is not better
but good job they are Tough in Scotland
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How would there be even one? Looks fairly unianimous to me
Euro Elections are different because they're Proportional Representation, not elected by constituency. So basically, the SNP got the most votes in every constituency, but the 6 Scottish MEPs are divided up by overall percentage for the whole country. Brexit party got (I believe) around 14% of the overall vote so they have one MEP. Lib Dems and Tories also have one Scottish MEP each. However, if this was a General Election, every Scottish MP (in Westminster) would be SNP. Bit confusing really because of the two different electoral systems.

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