[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Don't worry Alf, Africa isn't going to run out of black people because a few live in White England.

Only Black people in Africa? Are they racist or something? When do they embrace diversity?

[Marsh.]

The funniest part is you post it as a joke, but you genuinely believe it.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

The funniest part is you post it as a joke, but you genuinely believe it.

My last two posts was asking you questions, you answered neither.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

My last two posts was asking you questions, you answered neither.

You mean you were seriously asking if Africa contains only black people?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You mean you were seriously asking if Africa contains only black people?

No. Is Africa racist? And when do they embrace diversity?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

No. Is Africa racist? And when do they embrace diversity?

Yes, Africa are racist. They don't like white people, so they fly over to countries like England (you know, countries that only have white people) and live there.

It's a crisis at the moment as there's only 2 black people left in Africa.

[Alf]

It comes so easy of the tongue to claim how White English people are racist.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes, Africa are racist. They don't like white people, so they fly over to countries like England (you know, countries that only have white people) and live there.

It's a crisis at the moment as there's only 2 black people left in Africa.

I think you'll find most of them come to escape communism.And the evil dictators it produces.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Alf

The thing is my question doesn't have to be about Japan, it can be about, India, Brazil, Egypt, China ect

You can change the location but I doubt you'd be happy with any answer because you don't want an answer but guess what? I'm gonna keep answering because you keep asking questions.

Originally Posted by Alf

No I didn't ask that question, I didn't say English people, I said White people who speak English.

Let me put the question again, in a different way.

Let's say somebody from a majority White. English speaking country, eg England, USA, Australia, Canada Ect. They want to go on holiday to experience a different culture. They go to somewhere like, Egypt, India, Japan ect. When they get there, the country is majority White, English speaking immigrants from England, USA, Australia, Canada Ect.

Do you think that is a good thing, and not only a good thing but an essential thing for the good of that country?

The race of a people doesn't determine the culture. Egypt could be full of white people yet the history and culture would remain. The pyramids wouldn't disappear, the current way of life wouldn't disappear, the trademarks of Egypt wouldn't change. There are plenty of white people living in the majority of countries and it's not changing a thing plus most countries, like Japan welcome tourists and such to indulge in their culture. It's a common asian attitude that a lot of asian countries like Japan, China and South Korea love people engaging in their culture because the sharing of culture and it's evolution are celebrated for the most part.

Growth and development are important for a country and I certainly wouldn't despair if I went to one of these countries and saw mostly white people around.

The UK's culture is not changing just because there's more people with brown skin then there was a few years ago. Judging by the fact that little has changed since the days of Enoch Powell in terms of attitude shows how stunted we truly are.

[Northern Monkey]

Cleese is deffo not xenophobic.He employed that nice Spanish fellow as soon as we’d joined the EU.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Cleese is deffo not xenophobic.He employed that nice Spanish fellow as soon as we’d joined the EU.

he did clout him around the head

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he did clout him around the head

Employment laws were different then.
Plus it kept him awake.Don’t need him taking a siesta mid afternoon.

[Livia]

Anyone who thinks the English way of life is not affected by incomers, I would urge you to visit east London. Of course, it would be better if you knew London before. Currently poor people are being ethnically cleansed from Islington and sent out to Basildon because Islington is "up and coming". That means, lots of immigrants and lots of rich people (and the champagne socialists of course, they're taken as read).

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anyone who thinks the English way of life is not affected by incomers, I would urge you to visit east London. Of course, it would be better if you knew London before. Currently poor people are being ethnically cleansed from Islington and sent out to Basildon because Islington is "up and coming". That means, lots of immigrants and lots of rich people (and the champagne socialists of course, they're taken as read).

You are confusing gentrification for ethnic cleansing. Two very different issues. White people aren't being 'ethnically cleansed' or forced out of their homes by evil people who just so happen to have a different skin colour.

In fact, it's more likely that it's the ethnic minorities that are more likely effected by gentrification, not the other way around.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

You are confusing gentrification for ethnic cleansing. Two very different issues. White people aren't being 'ethnically cleansed' or forced out of their homes by evil people who just so happen to have a different skin colour.

In fact, it's more likely that it's the ethnic minorities that are more likely effected by gentrification, not the other way around.

er have you ever been to Upton, East Ham, Plaistow or say Forest gate? there aint nothing gentrified about there

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

Anyone who thinks the English way of life is not affected by incomers, I would urge you to visit east London. Of course, it would be better if you knew London before. Currently poor people are being ethnically cleansed from Islington and sent out to Basildon because Islington is "up and coming". That means, lots of immigrants and lots of rich people (and the champagne socialists of course, they're taken as read).

The same east London has always been home to waves of immigrants until they moved elsewhere

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

er have you ever been to Upton, East Ham, Plaistow or say Forest gate? there aint nothing gentrified about there

So true. Even the Boleyn pub has shut down, or is about to. All the lovely old Victorian pubs are going, Muslims don't tend to spend much time down the pub. And as you quoted Dezzy's post, I maybe should explain that I was using the term ethnic cleansing for effect (that's the proper use of 'effect', for Dezzy's benefit).

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

The same east London has always been home to waves of immigrants until they moved elsewhere

do you have any idea of the numbers involved in your "waves" and the numbers in comparison to population?

cos otherwise its not really helpful?

London is the region with the largest number of migrants (3.4 million foreign-born people in 2017) How does that compare to the 40,000 Huguenots that came to the UK over 40 years for example?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

So true. Even the Boleyn pub has shut down, or is about to. All the lovely old Victorian pubs are going, Muslims don't tend to spend much time down the pub. And as you quoted Dezzy's post, I maybe should explain that I was using the term ethnic cleansing for effect (that's the proper use of 'effect', for Dezzy's benefit).

just as an example of pushing people out, we have a curry house which was very popular in our high street, the Dad has now passed it to his son who has decided he will no longer serve alcohol....so guess who wont be visiting that establishment now it seems like a bonkers business move but I guess the majority of his patrons dont drink now so he knows he can make this change without impacting his profits

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

do you have any idea of the numbers involved in your "waves" and the numbers in comparison to population?

cos otherwise its not really helpful?

And do you?

Go there and see the whole streets built by huguenots, read memoirs of the jewish life there when a huge wave of immigrants from eastern Europe settled in east London.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

And do you?

Go there and see the whole streets built by huguenots, read memoirs of the jewish life there when a huge wave of immigrants from eastern Europe settled in east London.

40,000 over 40 years is not really a wave its a gradual absorption and every one would have trade and would work immediately (or die)

YOu just cannot try and compare today by just linking them with the word "immigrant"

its about as pointless and misleading as the tired " we are all immigrants" rubbish people spout as if that fixes mass immigration with no controls


We have many successful immigration stories like the Chinese, the Poles but that does not mean all immigration is positive and welcome.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

40,000 over 40 years is not really a wave its a gradual absorption and every one would have trade and would work immediately (or die)

YOu just cannot try and compare today by just linking them with the word "immigrant"

its about as pointless and misleading as the tired " we are all immigrants" rubbish people spout as if that fixes mass immigration with no controls


We have many successful immigration stories like the Chinese, the Poles but that does not mean all immigration is positive and welcome.

That second sentence is just nonsensical

I never said I was in favour of unregulated immigration but you go off

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I never said I was in favour of unregulated immigration but you go off

No one said you were so not sure why you would be worried?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

No one said you were so not sure why you would be worried?

Well forgive me for thinking your reply to my post was actually directed to me
So you saying it was a random rant?
Alt facts , alt rules of debate I guess

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well forgive me for thinking your reply to my post was actually directed to me
So you saying it was a random rant?
Alt facts , alt rules of debate I guess

sorry you have lost me