[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yeah can i grab a tit or not, minefield!

Maybe i’m being blind but I honestly did not see him grab a tit in that vid.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Maybe i’m being blind but I honestly did not see him grab a tit in that vid.

Neither did I

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

Maybe i’m being blind but I honestly did not see him grab a tit in that vid.

I was referring to your comment about how you're glad you're not single because no doubt you'll get accused of all sorts. Like women are constantly accusing men who chat them up of sexual harassment, it would be like me coming in here saying "I'm glad I'm not single, these days you're libel to be raped if you even say hi to a man". . .

[Ammi]

...(..from the vid...)...his hand definitely went to the area of her breast, it did look as though he may have touched her ..but when he withdrew his hand, he was holding her hand so looked more as if he was taking her hand, which he then kissed...it could have been though that he also did touch her breast...its so difficult without audio as well...

[bots]

well, what i saw was a guy fondling the inside of her upper thigh, when she batted his hand away from there he went to her breast.

[Ammi]

...I have no idea why he would touch her at all to speak to her...why the necessity to put a hand on her thigh or anywhere else to enable him to have a conversation or whatever...I don’t though see on any of the vids..(..some are a little longer..)...where she pushed his hand away from her thigh...

[Ammi]

...why do (some) males feel the need for physical contact when talking to a female ...like the woman can’t hear them unless she’s being touched...

[bots]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...why do (some) males feel the need for physical contact when talking to a female ...like the woman can’t hear them unless she’s being touched...

i don't honestly know how anyone can defend after that video

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...why do (some) males feel the need for physical contact when talking to a female ...like the woman can’t hear them unless she’s being touched...

Yup, entirely the issue in many cases. They wouldn't do it to a bloke, yet do it with women. I have found this a lot, especially when sitting down talking, random men feel the need to lay their hand on my inner thigh (tends to be in breast area if standing up, or resting hand on arse) or whatever 'to have a conversation'..from my experience, older men are more likely to do this but I am sure its the same across the board.

Now, unless it happened repeatedly when I had said to stop touching me (which I almost always say..which often turns the man quite..aggressive) I would not personally class it as sexual assault or anything, but I can see why some women do, as its so unnecessary and ****ing common as hell, and as I said they wouldn't dream of dong it to other men (or most of them wouldn't) and really, it needs to end. I can understand the touches and stuff if you are in a flirting situation and its reciprocated, but it tends not to be that at all..its just default, to bloody stroke a woman you are talking to, or touch their legs, hell I have even had job interviews where instead of a handshake at the end, the guy wants a hug! Its..ridiculous and I really don't think a lot of men know quite how common it is for women. Hence thinking its an overreaction, when it could be the 4th bloke that day thats done it! As I said, I almost always tell them to stop..only times I haven't have been when its been bosses and I wanted to keep my job, and the men get defensive 'touching your leg is not like raping you or something', aggressive 'I am only touching your leg, could be much ****ing worse', paranoid 'oh so you are going to report me for sexual assault for just touching your leg..or abusive 'you are an ugly twat anyway, I was just being nice'. All of these are actual reactions I have had from men when I ask them to stop touching me. Nicely too..I am always polite..though maybe shouldn't be..until they ignore it and keep doing it, at which stage I become less 'nice'.

It was 100x worse when I was pregnant, for people randomly touching me. Men I knew thinking its fine to grab my tits and say how they have obviosuly grown a lot Not, with friends, I didn't mind that much, but this was just like..random guys I vaguely knew. Or they would start pervy conversations about how theres nothing sexier than a pregnant woman, how they wanted to be breastfed, etxc. It was unbelievable really. Also, thats when the touching from random women started, old ladies coming up to me in the street to stroke my belly and ask when I am due, etc. I get that a lot of the times its trying to be nice..BUT..women are not ****ing public property, even when pregnant.

Rant over

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I have no idea why he would touch her at all to speak to her...why the necessity to put a hand on her thigh or anywhere else to enable him to have a conversation or whatever...I don’t though see on any of the vids..(..some are a little longer..)...where she pushed his hand away from her thigh...

But fans get touchy feely with celebrities all the time, security have to pull them away it gets so bad . I don't see any harassment in the video with Cuba Gooding ,but as I said the potato footage isn't the best .